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Old Today, 07:41 AM
 
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Koch's are Establishment big government. Nothing libertarian about it.
They funded a lot of Hillary's campaign.
What a joke...you know full well we wouldn't even be talking about GOP "leadership" in this country without decades of Koch "astroturf" and lobbying and billions of dollars.

They made the minority...the majority...and you now act as if they were a big nothing.

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They have inserted themselves (paid!) in every aspect of American politics.

We wouldn't even be here talking about this because we'd have the Will of the People in our government - that is, the majority instead of the minority - if not for the Kochs.

Be real.
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Old Today, 08:02 AM
 
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Originally Posted by craigiri View Post
What a joke...you know full well we wouldn't even be talking about GOP "leadership" in this country without decades of Koch "astroturf" and lobbying and billions of dollars.

They made the minority...the majority...and you now act as if they were a big nothing.

John Birch Society
Federalist Society
Cato Institute
Americans for Prosperity
Tea Party
ALEC
Largest Lobbying group in DC

They have inserted themselves (paid!) in every aspect of American politics.

We wouldn't even be here talking about this because we'd have the Will of the People in our government - that is, the majority instead of the minority - if not for the Kochs.

Be real.
so you're saying that liberal politicians are free of influence and are working on behalf of the people? cool story bro.
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Old Today, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Old Today, 08:58 AM
 
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That entire post is a direct copy and paste...why make your own points when you can hide behind ones concocted by a Bernie Sanders savant?
Mr. Sanders copy & pasted from the 1980 Libertarian Party Platform on which David Koch ran.

Think for yourself for a change.
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Old Today, 09:00 AM
 
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I wonder if the OP knows that the Federal Reserve, which he happily funds and has no trouble forcing others to fund at gunpoint, also gave Hitler and Stalin money?

I'm an ok businessman if I do say so myself. However, I've never sat down with a client who I knew funded the murders of hundreds of millions of innocents and then proceeded to make a deal with him.

As I've admitted before, I'm kind of an old fashion prude. Maybe not being down with genocide makes me uncool.
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Old Today, 09:03 AM
 
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lmao! The wikipedia article says the exact opposite.
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Old Today, 09:05 AM
 
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Someone needs a ladder to get those straws.
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Old Today, 09:13 AM
 
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I have a crazy relative who is a Libertanian. For work, he sold on ebay while his wife raked in the money from a great job. Just had a baby. Wife lost job. Now they're on Obamacare. Wonder if he still believes this cold hearted Libertarian nonsense now.
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Old Today, 09:19 AM
 
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I have a crazy relative who is a Libertanian. For work, he sold on ebay while his wife raked in the money from a great job. Just had a baby. Wife lost job. Now they're on Obamacare. Wonder if he still believes this cold hearted Libertarian nonsense now.
+1+ for the realness.

Personally, I question libertarianism's sincerity in supporting a limited or minimal state, or no state at all, when the objective/goal is not in fact to get rid of, or 'shrink' the state; they simply seek to replace the state with private for-profit corporations.
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Old Today, 09:20 AM
 
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I have a crazy relative who is a Libertanian. For work, he sold on ebay while his wife raked in the money from a great job. Just had a baby. Wife lost job. Now they're on Obamacare. Wonder if he still believes this cold hearted Libertarian nonsense now.
I think we should base all policies on such stories.
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