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Old 08-26-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: SGV
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Prior to WW2 any number of US families had some sort of dealings with Germany and Russia either selling them stuff, buying stuff from them and so on and so forth.

If not them, then Japan or a host of other countries.

Basically, the OP's thesis is at least 2 if not 3 layers deep in hackneyed internet meme stupidity.

Anyone disagreeing with me on this....is worse than Hitler.
The fianancers of all the wars in the 20th century do sanctioned business in lower Manhattan on the daily with no prosecution from the U.S. government.

Of course to be consistent Sammy would have to prosecute not only its master, the Federal Reserve, it would have to prosecute itself.

We've entangled ourselves in a dark and inhumane system (statism), my friends. "Getting clean" requires a complete dismantling and rebuild.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:55 PM
 
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The fianancers of all the wars in the 20th century do sanctioned business in lower Manhattan on the daily with no prosecution from the U.S. government.

Of course to be consistent Sammy would have to prosecute not only its master, the Federal Reserve, it would have to prosecute itself.

We've entangled ourselves in a dark and inhumane system (statism), my friends. "Getting clean" requires a complete dismantling and rebuild.
Well.....there are a couple problems there.

First, I think we agree (??) that our populace is not, by and large, ethical and educated and singularly focused on what it wants or needs the end result to be. Without a baseline, there is no map to rebuilding.

Secondly, our populace (and most others, frankly) would not make such a sacrifice even if it were called for. As we learned in construction, demolition is the easy part. But doing Step 1 without Step 2 would be a nightmare of which we could never imagine......

But let's pretend we had a moral populace. First, many would divest themselves from Arm Makers instead of heavily investing in them to "make money". That would slow down a lot of the Wall Street part and said companies would probably focus on the civilian sector until and unless actual physical war came.

Said populace, in my dreams, would show up by the millions in DC or their local protests weekly until a certain thing was done. One of these things might be to end the profiteering in Arms. That's basically what made Harry Truman well know as during WWII he headed the committee making sure that the Industrialists didn't rip off the people (taxes, the government).

Greed and Selfishness are powerful motivators. Add fear to that...and then mix with Billions in propaganda put forward by any interest that has the bucks....and you have the system we built.
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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Nice to see Boer still pissed off about the few of us here who refuse to accept his statist paradigm.

I love these weekly screeches.
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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Fred Koch.... the original big money in the Koch Dynasty made his fortune helping Stalin and the Nazis

The modern libertarian movement is primarily funded by this original fortune that Fred Koch provided via his collaboration with Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_C._Koch

https://youtu.be/lv7_Hx9QY-Y

https://youtu.be/7vWdRYpRbgI
Yes, he had some involvement in enterprises in the USSR and Nazi Germany before those two entities became the global menaces they became...your point?

Lots of people/businesses were involved, in the 20's and early 30's, nothing really happened regarding conflict.
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Old 08-26-2019, 02:01 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Fred Koch.... the original big money in the Koch Dynasty made his fortune helping Stalin and the Nazis

The modern libertarian movement is primarily funded by this original fortune that Fred Koch provided via his collaboration with Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_C._Koch

https://youtu.be/lv7_Hx9QY-Y

https://youtu.be/7vWdRYpRbgI
Hitler and Stalin are the granddaddy's of the modern American liberal
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Old 08-26-2019, 03:21 PM
 
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Hitler and Stalin are the granddaddy's of the modern American liberal
Hitler and Stalin are bricks in the wall in the long tradition of statism.

Fixed it for ya.

The bill is in the mail.
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Old 08-30-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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I just thought you guys would like to know about where the financial backing came from
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Old 08-30-2019, 10:52 AM
 
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I just thought you guys would like to know about where the financial backing came from
Lost the thread, didn't ya?
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Old 08-30-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Hitler and Stalin are bricks in the wall in the long tradition of statism.

Fixed it for ya.

The bill is in the mail.
This I agree with. Either extreme right wing or extreme left wing equals statism.
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Old 08-30-2019, 04:17 PM
 
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This I agree with. Either extreme right wing or extreme left wing equals statism.
And everything in between.
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