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Old 09-01-2019, 03:58 PM
 
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Yeah socialism failed...execept it was sabatoge not socialism in VENEZUELA

https://youtu.be/Fsx1L6moDG8

Socialism fails every time...

except with all the nordic countries

And

Vietnam and China

And

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...cialist_states


#propaganda fail
BS, you’re so full of it, it is launching out of your ears under high pressure. That thug Chavez tied his economy and his socialism to oil and when the price of oil fell, so did Venezuela. A prime example of how socialism fails when you run out of OPM (other people’s money).

 
Old 09-01-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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I find it simulating and worthy of study

you have to travel the world to find someone so foolish that they literally oppose A strong centralized democratically-elected government...

In modern America
(post corporate spokesman Regan) they are everywhere

https://youtu.be/QTcL6Xc_eMM

#Roman Empire redux
Oh go back and live in S. Africa.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 05:42 PM
 
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I'm still laughing at the OP calling Venezuela "Oil wealthy".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier.../#68721cf24ecd

Yeah, seize control of oil production and watch it fall by 60%.

Last I saw they were almost behind Mexico in oil production and at about 1/7th of what the US produces.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Originally Posted by Boer View Post
Yeah socialism failed...execept it was sabatoge not socialism in VENEZUELA

https://youtu.be/Fsx1L6moDG8

Socialism fails every time...

except with all the nordic countries

And

Vietnam and China

And

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...cialist_states


#propaganda fail
You need to keep up with the news

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffrey.../#394a3cfe74ad
 
Old Yesterday, 08:02 PM
 
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That's just fake news...

that article and all extreme propaganda defines socialism as the government takeover of private businesses

AS IF

Bernie Sanders would want the government to take over Walmart and McDonald's

WRONG

Bernie Sanders and the vast majority of the American people want Nordic socialism not Latin American strong man third world socialism

# propaganda crushed
 
Old Yesterday, 08:39 PM
 
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I'm still laughing at the OP calling Venezuela "Oil wealthy".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier.../#68721cf24ecd

Yeah, seize control of oil production and watch it fall by 60%.

Last I saw they were almost behind Mexico in oil production and at about 1/7th of what the US produces.

oil wealth and oil production are two different things

# swing and miss
 
Old Yesterday, 08:44 PM
 
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I'm still laughing at the OP calling Venezuela "Oil wealthy".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier.../#68721cf24ecd

Yeah, seize control of oil production and watch it fall by 60%.

Last I saw they were almost behind Mexico in oil production and at about 1/7th of what the US produces.
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Originally Posted by T-310 View Post
BS, you’re so full of it, it is launching out of your ears under high pressure. That thug Chavez tied his economy and his socialism to oil and when the price of oil fell, so did Venezuela. A prime example of how socialism fails when you run out of OPM (other people’s money).
He created phenomenal wealth for his country and was Sabotage by OPEC and their funny business partners
 
Old Yesterday, 08:47 PM
 
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Oh go back and live in S. Africa.
I can't because your government forced democracy on our presidential elections even though you don't practice it at home
 
Old Yesterday, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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When I read posts like the OPs...I can't help but wonder, are liberals that dumb...or do they do some really powerful drugs.
 
Old Yesterday, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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We're talking about how the Socialist policies of Asian education dominated American crony capitalism

you can cherry pick examples of how the most privileged Nordic people suggest they are not the same as a third world socialists all you want but the fact is Nordic countries have heavily socialized critical Human Services

That's probably why they are so much more educated than Americans
(just like Asians)

EDUCATION IN SWEEDEN:

"From the age of one, children can be admitted to preschool. Preschool is free for poorer families and heavily subsidized for everyone else"

"The majority of schools in Sweden are municipally run, but there are also autonomous and publicly funded schools, known as independent schools"

"The higher education system is compatible with the rest of Europe through the Bologna Process where degrees are divided into 3 cycles, basic level, advanced level and doctoral level. There are two degrees available in each cycle of different lengths. Universities have no tuition fees and student aid is available from the government"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Sweden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Sweden

None of the above items you mention are "free". They are all paid through taxes. Taxes in Sweden are (by our standards) highly "regressive", where all those that receive benefits are forced to contribute. Not primarily the rich.
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