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Old 08-25-2019, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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Where did you get the data? $1 cannot even buy a meal in chinese cities. Not to mention housing etc.
Who said anything about cities? But here is the data.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...3fresponsive=y
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Googled most educated countries...here's 10.
1. Canada
2. Japan
3. Israel
4. South Korea
5. United kingdom
6. United State's
7. Australia
8. Finland
9. Norway
10. Luxembourg

All first world countries with high standards of living.

Feel free to name me "uneducated" countries...will be no comparison to the above 10 list.
LOL.

Name one smart poor person who is left out.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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in America education is mostly a for profit industry where only the privileged get high quality easy access

if a genius was born in the ghetto or the trailer park very likely they will never have a shot at a high quality education

Asia takes the exact opposite approach...

99 percent of their higher education is controlled funded and administered by the government who is beholden to the peoples Democratic vote!

"In mainland China, nearly all universities and research institutions are public and currently, all important and significant centers for higher education in the country are publicly administered"

"In India, most universities and nearly all research institutions are public. There are some private undergraduate colleges, mostly engineering schools, but a majority of these are affiliated to public universities. Some of these private schools are also partially aided by the national or state governments. India also has an "open" public university, the Indira Gandhi National Open University (IGNOU), which mostly offers distance education, and in terms of the number of enrolled students is now the largest university in the world with over 4 million students."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_university

America is being taken over by for-profit interests because the corporations have taken charge via government bribery

The corporations don't want you to have high quality government services they want you to pay them a premium for them while they siphon off your tax dollars

once the corporations have access to your tax dollars they will bleed you dry.

American corporate education is bribing our lawmakers to keep free public education out.

They don't care about America's future they just want Americans go get big loans and give them all the money...

The only thing better (for the education corporations) would be the "school choice" scenario where private schools literally have access to our tax dollars however don't have to worry about the Democratic vote

Blackwater (mercenary proprietor) proprietor eric prince's sister (ditzy betsy devos) has been put in command of education via fake president trump

#HOSTILE corporate takeover USA#

This is not pro socialism
This is anti CORPORATE BRIBE of our government...
Including the ones who sell kungpao chicken at the food court?
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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For halloween, if I ever live in Conservative california, Instead of scary ghosts and monsters in front of my house, Im just gonna put a big banner that says “SOCIALISM”..
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:35 PM
 
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I believe that in America, a person's success depends on more than just privilege and/or education. There is some luck involved in it, the right choices, the right social networks, looks, stamina, personality, health, etc. In the U.S., if you are better than the next person for what the job requires, you keep the job. So if Asians are indeed getting all the best American jobs, the best houses, able to live the best life, they have proven themselves better at what they can do. That's the competitive nature of capitalism, and many say capitalism as the best thing ever to happen to America.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:41 PM
 
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This thread is hilarious because of how little OP understands the Chinese education system.

First off, there's a grueling entrance exam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...on#2017_Gaokao

All of the schooling before that is in preparation for that exam. Basically, you'll learn everything you need beforehand. University is easy and people generally cruise through them. There's pretty much no point in having university. Companies could just hire off the gaokao scores.

It's funny, when I talk to my wife (who went through this system), she'll say 'oh yes, we learned that in high school.' She has NEVER said 'we learned that in college.'

Secondly, there's a culture of education. The families that want to do well put tons of commitment, money, and time in to extracurricular study. There is no life outside of school.

I was reading a magazine at the pediatrician's office in Hong Kong. There was an article on prepping your child for their Kindergarten interview: how to act (never say "I don't know, say I'd like to learn"), what to wear, and how to list awards/achievements. The academic competitiveness is insane. It's not a life that I want for my children.

Thirdly, many of the best universities are private, and in the USA. That's why there's tons of Asian students at them, and not vice versa.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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Also, any US low income student that works as hard as the Chinese students that get in to Tier 1 universities will certainly get a free ride to any school of their choosing.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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If poverty in America looked like poverty in China or India, maybe Americans would be a little more motivated to rise up. China has 82 Million people living on less than $1.00 a day. I bet it’s even worse in India.

Thankfully, our poor have a much higher standard of living, but when you have nobody but yourself to count on for help, you tend to be more motivated.
This is so true. It's the human condition.

When you have plenty, you're not as motivated to work/study as hard.

Lived/worked in 3 Asian countries. Can confirm that upward mobility there requires dedication, the likes of which is foreign to people in the US.

If high-paying American jobs are taken by Asians, both parties certainly deserve it.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:53 PM
 
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This thread is hilarious because of how little OP understands the Chinese education system.

First off, there's a grueling entrance exam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...on#2017_Gaokao

All of the schooling before that is in preparation for that exam. Basically, you'll learn everything you need beforehand. University is easy and people generally cruise through them. There's pretty much no point in having university. Companies could just hire off the gaokao scores.

It's funny, when I talk to my wife (who went through this system), she'll say 'oh yes, we learned that in high school.' She has NEVER said 'we learned that in college.'

Secondly, there's a culture of education. The families that want to do well put tons of commitment, money, and time in to extracurricular study. There is no life outside of school.

I was reading a magazine at the pediatrician's office in Hong Kong. There was an article on prepping your child for their Kindergarten interview: how to act (never say "I don't know, say I'd like to learn"), what to wear, and how to list awards/achievements. The academic competitiveness is insane. It's not a life that I want for my children.

Thirdly, many of the best universities are private, and in the USA. That's why there's tons of Asian students at them, and not vice versa.
This is also truth right here.

I was shocked when I learned most Chinese highschoolers go to school from 6am to 6pm. One day off a MONTH.
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Old 08-25-2019, 03:00 PM
 
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there's lots of poor people all over the world who have the same motivation to climb out of poverty as they do in China and India however without socialized education they don't have the opportunity to do so

IE latin American

The fact is a socialized education system allows more people access to high-quality education

I never said there weren't private schools in Asia and I never said all Asians are smart

If you look across the aggregate you will see that countries with socialized education simply produce more educated people

That's why America is getting its ass kicked in the job market because only our wealthy and privileged few can afford access to the best education's in this country

There are probably thousands of geniuses in the trailer parks and ghettos of our nation who are too busy changing tires at Walmart and taking care of their children to have an opportunity at bettering themselves through a private for-profit education system

Intelligence does not equal success you have to have opportunity

The terrifying thing is once people like Betsy DeVos get in charge of Trump's education policy they turn it into a profit motivated business and that will exclude even more people as our Public School Systems crumble
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