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Old 09-01-2019, 02:20 PM
 
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You're all out WRONG. No possible way is funding education the same as slavery. Good lord, just what the heck possesses you that forces you to believe funding education is the same as slavery? The alternative to no education for everybody is sheer ignorance.

In the highly red state of Oklahoma, members of the board of the Canadian County Republicans, who believed as you, got voted out. https://www.thelostogle.com/2018/11/...n-in-oklahoma/
Life Explorer is truly one of the most fanciful drama queens on this site

His logic is awash with fantasy and victimhood

99% of people with that attitude were born into wealth and privilege and want to have all of life's critical Human Services for free and not share their inheritance with the rest of society

They are the same people that would grab the silverware and run out the back door if the village was under attack from the neighboring tribe
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:37 PM
 
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in America education is mostly a for profit industry where only the privileged get high quality easy access

if a genius was born in the ghetto or the trailer park very likely they will never have a shot at a high quality education

Asia takes the exact opposite approach...

99 percent of their higher education is controlled funded and administered by the government who is beholden to the peoples Democratic vote!

"In mainland China, nearly all universities and research institutions are public and currently, all important and significant centers for higher education in the country are publicly administered"

"In India, most universities and nearly all research institutions are public. There are some private undergraduate colleges, mostly engineering schools, but a majority of these are affiliated to public universities. Some of these private schools are also partially aided by the national or state governments. India also has an "open" public university, the Indira Gandhi National Open University (IGNOU), which mostly offers distance education, and in terms of the number of enrolled students is now the largest university in the world with over 4 million students."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_university

America is being taken over by for-profit interests because the corporations have taken charge via government bribery

The corporations don't want you to have high quality government services they want you to pay them a premium for them while they siphon off your tax dollars

once the corporations have access to your tax dollars they will bleed you dry.

American corporate education is bribing our lawmakers to keep free public education out.

They don't care about America's future they just want Americans go get big loans and give them all the money...

The only thing better (for the education corporations) would be the "school choice" scenario where private schools literally have access to our tax dollars however don't have to worry about the Democratic vote

Blackwater (mercenary proprietor) proprietor eric prince's sister (ditzy betsy devos) has been put in command of education via fake president trump

#HOSTILE corporate takeover USA#

This is not pro socialism
This is anti CORPORATE BRIBE of our government...
Xi is president for life:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:38 PM
 
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I went into the Navy and went to college after on the GI Bill. Later my work paid for my MBA at a top 25 B-school.

Lots of non-privileged get into great schools.

The US system is great because there are low barriers to getting a higher education, and many paths to one.
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:46 PM
 
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there's lots of poor people all over the world who have the same motivation to climb out of poverty as they do in China and India however without socialized education they don't have the opportunity to do so

IE latin American

The fact is a socialized education system allows more people access to high-quality education

I never said there weren't private schools in Asia and I never said all Asians are smart

If you look across the aggregate you will see that countries with socialized education simply produce more educated people

That's why America is getting its ass kicked in the job market because only our wealthy and privileged few can afford access to the best education's in this country

There are probably thousands of geniuses in the trailer parks and ghettos of our nation who are too busy changing tires at Walmart and taking care of their children to have an opportunity at bettering themselves through a private for-profit education system

Intelligence does not equal success you have to have opportunity

The terrifying thing is once people like Betsy DeVos get in charge of Trump's education policy they turn it into a profit motivated business and that will exclude even more people as our Public School Systems crumble
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:48 PM
 
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I went into the Navy and went to college after on the GI Bill. Later my work paid for my MBA at a top 25 B-school.

Lots of non-privileged get into great schools.

The US system is great because there are low barriers to getting a higher education, and many paths to one.
There are a lot of people that are denied the opportunity to serve in the military based solely on their physical size or if they've been accused of a crime or not

Rich Kids commit crimes too but their dads pay lawyers that have their records expunged

If you're 5' 10" 250 lb of solid muscle and have been accused of a crime you're never going to get into the military under any circumstances

I know from 1st hand experience

Even though I scored in officer class on the ASVAB I was denied entry because of my BMI

Pretty comical to suggest someone that was the starting heavyweight wrestler on their high school team is too overweight for military service
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:51 PM
 
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I wonder if he is going to maintain the same socialist policy that helped Asian countries take over all the best American jobs
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:59 PM
 
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There are a lot of people that are denied the opportunity to serve in the military based solely on their physical size or if they've been accused of a crime or not
I am sure there have been lots of people denied, so they must pursue other paths like merit, scholarships, even taking out loans.

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Rich Kids commit crimes too but their dads pay lawyers that have their records expunged
Absurd.

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If you're 5' 10" 250 lb of solid muscle and have been accused of a crime you're never going to get into the military under any circumstances[

I know from 1st hand experience
An accusation/arrest does not prevent entry into the military.

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Even though I scored in officer class on the ASVAB I was denied entry because of my BMI
Should not be so fat then, lol.

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Pretty comical to suggest someone that was the starting heavyweight wrestler on their high school team is too overweight for military service
Not comical at all, you are fat, being a HS wrestler has nothing to do with it.

If you are above the BMI, they do the rope and choke. Seems you failed that also, meaning you are fat. The responsible thing would be to lose weight. But hey, blame everyone else.
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Old 09-01-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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I am sure there have been lots of people denied, so they must pursue other paths like merit, scholarships, even taking out loans.



Absurd.



An accusation/arrest does not prevent entry into the military.



Should not be so fat then, lol.



Not comical at all, you are fat, being a HS wrestler has nothing to do with it.

If you are above the BMI, they do the rope and choke. Seems you failed that also, meaning you are fat. The responsible thing would be to lose weight. But hey, blame everyone else.
As a competitive athlete my body fat was measured by the latest scientific criteria at 14% which puts me into the Olympic Athlete category

The plain simple fact is if you are 5 foot 10 you must weigh no more than 180 lb to be accepted into the military

The plain simple fact is if you've been accused of a felony regardless of conviction they can also deny you entry into the US Military

You probably don't know these things because you were more privileged than anybody that is Born Into rural third world Asia

The difference is they don't have to take out a loan or beg for money to go to school

they have a socialist education system

That means everybody has a fair shot at the best education the country can provide regardless of their level of privilege

And that my privileged American friend is why Asians are taking all the best American jobs

#socialism crushed croney capitalism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism

https://youtu.be/3SFngkHQQQA

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Old 09-01-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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As a competitive athlete my body fat was measured by the latest scientific criteria at 14% which puts me into the Olympic Athlete category
Congrats?

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The plain simple fact is if you are 5 foot 10 you must weigh no more than 180 lb to be accepted into the military
Incorrect. If you exceed the BMI, they do the waist to neck measurement. Even someone overweight can pass it, let alone someone with 14% BF.

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The plain simple fact is if you've been accused of a felony regardless of conviction they can also deny you entry into the US Military
Incorrect

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You probably don't know these things because you were more privileged than anybody that is Born Into rural third world Asia
Know what things? The requirements to enter the military? Go to college?

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The difference is they don't have to take out a loan or beg for money to go to school
But they are limited in availability to go to school, only so many seats available, despite your hype, most of Asia lacks higher education, they actually trail far behind the US in higher education obtainment, something like 30% behind.

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they have a socialist education system
Most of the US school system is gov operated.

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That means everybody has a fair shot at the best education the country can provide regardless of their level of privilege
The US gives more than a fair shot, it gives an advantage to those who take a little effort to get it. This is why we stand at around 35% of those in the US has a bachelor's, while only 5% or so in China.

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And that my privileged American friend is why Asians are taking all the best American jobs
No one is taking any best jobs, lol.

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You make no sense, most of the school system in the US is gov ran, which by definition is socialist. Most students go to the public school system.
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Old 09-01-2019, 10:44 PM
 
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I'd like to point out two things.

The first one is lifeexplorer's moments. Most of his comments are explain x, define y, give me an example of z. It is bordering on trolling. But I want to address this idea that taxing is theft. We live in a society that has grown to take many things for granted, services that are payer through taxes. It is anti-social to try to go backwards instead of forward. The irony is that these are the type of people less likely to see paying for the time a person works, instead of getting paid for what he produces is in fact slavery [essentially every person who doesn't own a business is a slave]. Paying taxes is not.

The other point has to do with immigration (both legal and illegal). I just heard a comment by an intellectual from Argentina that told it how it is. I'm just gonna translate it as best as I can: The purpose of mass migration is not so foreigners can be treated as nationals, but to get citizens used to be treated as foreigners. That is lower wages, less benefits, without complaining.

To answer OP question. The answer is not to establish government run education, from the hands of for profit education system. The answer is an independent system not manipulated from neither of those interests.
Exactly, mass migration is intended to lower the quality of life and standard of living of citizens and make them divided and weak and as foreigners in their own country.
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