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Old 09-30-2019, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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OP is an idiot.

Perhaps they should move to parts of the country with great public schools like the midwest.
From prior posts, I wholeheartedly agree with your first sentence. I mostly agree with your last sentence.
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Old 09-30-2019, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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If poverty in America looked like poverty in China or India, maybe Americans would be a little more motivated to rise up. China has 82 Million people living on less than $1.00 a day. I bet itís even worse in India.

Thankfully, our poor have a much higher standard of living, but when you have nobody but yourself to count on for help, you tend to be more motivated.
Apples to Orange comparison.
What is the minimum wage in China and cost of living compared to the US?
The vast majority of Chinese are not living in abject poverty.
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Old 09-30-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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I will at least agree that our public educations system is substandard for most of the USA and needs drastic changes and improvement. However, even in many of these horrible schools, Asians succeed through hard work and discipline.

Asians are successful in the USA because of how dedicated to education they are combined with a high average IQ and discipline. In many cases, they set an example which we should follow.

I'm not sure the USA multi ethnic and racial culture can successfully implement a system that China and India have with their mostly single racial group. By the way, I've lived in China and enjoyed it but we are doing okay compared to the Chinese all things considered and considerably better than the India people on average.
I couldn't agree more that Asian culture and work ethic plays a major role in their overall per capita success rate in the United States however this conversation is about the tenants of socialism in critical Human Services such as schools and in that regard Asia is a perfect example of my theory

I spent most of my childhood in Hawaii
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Please explain why your public education, forcing other people to pay for your education, is not SLAVERY?
The majority of people don't think it is. Do you expect the majority of the people would vote yes to eliminate public education by abolishing taxes to pay for it? No! In Oklahoma, one of the reddest of states, close to a dozen incumbent Republican state legislators got voted out of office because they did not vote to raise taxes to increase teacher pay.

Besides, society needs public education to function for these modern times. Too bad how strongly you think public education is too much of a hellish burden upon society to pay for and must stop.
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Old 09-30-2019, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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High quality government services? High quality? hahahahahaha Show me where a government policy has been high quality.

Like the high quality Dept Of Education that has caused our standing in education to drop compared to the rest of the world?

You didn't think this through.
So we'd be better off sending kids to private schools where it's taught that evolution isn't true and the earth is 6000 years old?
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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Apples to Orange comparison.
What is the minimum wage in China and cost of living compared to the US?
The vast majority of Chinese are not living in abject poverty.
82 million out of 1.3 billion....keep trying.
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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82 million out of 1.3 billion....keep trying.
So 82 million out of 1.3 billion are poor in China?
That is less than 10% of the population.
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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My wife is Asian and she's in the dental industry. The dentist that she works for is unabashed when looking for new employees. He prefers to hire Asians because 1) they are smart 2) they are reliable 3) they have unmatched work ethic and 4) they are a great reflection on the dental practice.


My guess is other business owners are seeking the same qualifications. It's not rocket science.
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Old 09-30-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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Most people here at CD believe that money gives one the right to do whatever they wish. Now we have a higher educational system that welcomes the rich and declines the poor. It doesn't matter if the rich applicant is dumber than a rock. They have the money and therefore they get the seat.
The sad part of all this is that it in time the US will have nothing but brain dead rich folks running the country right into the ground. Secondly, many of those who will never get to college because of lack of funds could be the person who discovers a cure for cancer, or a viable, profitable, source of energy, etc.

The US higher education system should be based on intellect and desire to learn rather than who has the most money.
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I couldn't agree more that Asian culture and work ethic plays a major role in their overall per capita success rate in the United States however this conversation is about the tenants of socialism in critical Human Services such as schools and in that regard Asia is a perfect example of my theory

I spent most of my childhood in Hawaii
In answer to the bold - Not really. Culture and work ethic didn't prevent large populations of illiterate and low income communities in Asia.

More likely it's that immigration laws and conditions tend to self-select many Asian immigrants to come to the US, a disproportionate number who have certain educational qualifications AND can take advantage of the educational and economic opportunities available in the USA.
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