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Old 08-25-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yep. Vietnamese Americans also have similiar political orientations that varied by generation as well.

Ly Tong, who recently passed away, was a real character who captured some of the extremes of the older generation's political sentiments:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/04/...-striker-dies/
Silverkris as I stated before I know what true Communism is and it's almost laughable that the right wing in this country thinks that any Dem candidate is even remotely approaching that.
Wanting affordable healthcare & education is "Communist"?

America is a wealthy nation and we can afford things that are vital to us it just depends on priorities.
How much does it cost us to keep a nuclear bomb in a SILO 24/7 but we can't raise the minimum wage or even give basic healthcare to our fellow Americans?
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Old Yesterday, 12:19 AM
 
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Denmark is one of the happiest societies on the planet...along with Finland, Sweden and Norway...we should strive to emulate those countries. The USA ranks 18th.
Yeah 100%+ tax on cars, 50% taxes on income, no thanks. I'm quite happy here.
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Old Yesterday, 06:54 AM
 
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Silverkris as I stated before I know what true Communism is and it's almost laughable that the right wing in this country thinks that any Dem candidate is even remotely approaching that.
Wanting affordable healthcare & education is "Communist"?

America is a wealthy nation and we can afford things that are vital to us it just depends on priorities.
How much does it cost us to keep a nuclear bomb in a SILO 24/7 but we can't raise the minimum wage or even give basic healthcare to our fellow Americans?
Opposing and enforcing our immigration laws isn't Nazism or racism either yet you and yours keep claiming that it is so clean up your own backyard before you attack others.

We shouldn't be educating or providing free healthcare to illegal aliens either but your side thinks so.
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Old Yesterday, 06:59 AM
 
Location: USA
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How is opposing illegal immigration while still embracing legal immigration espousing xenophobia and fear mongering?????
It's not. The Left (Democrats), and their media purposely blur the line between legal immigrant, and illegal aliens by using terms like "MIGRANTS" and "Undocumented Immigrants". This is to paint anyone who disagrees with ILLEGAL ALIENS, anti LEGAL Immigration as xenophobes, and anti immigration. It is a lie, and that's all the Left can do.
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Old Yesterday, 09:39 AM
 
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It's not. The Left (Democrats), and their media purposely blur the line between legal immigrant, and illegal aliens by using terms like "MIGRANTS" and "Undocumented Immigrants". This is to paint anyone who disagrees with ILLEGAL ALIENS, anti LEGAL Immigration as xenophobes, and anti immigration. It is a lie, and that's all the Left can do.
The honest truth! Just look at the comment under this topic using the same unwarranted nasty labels against Americans who merely want our immigration laws respected and enforced while they conveniently forget that we allow in 1 million legal immigrants a year. They disgust me!
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Old Yesterday, 09:49 AM
 
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Well one can't exactly claim that light socialism has been bad for northern Europe. They have some of the best health care and education systems in the world.
Agree. As the young man in the OP articles stated:

"nobody leaves Cuba because they are running away from socialized health care and universal access higher education," he said. They fled a dictatorship
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Old Yesterday, 10:16 AM
 
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For about maybe the 25th time, the Scandinavian model is not socialism. Just ask the former Denmark Prime Minister.

www.city-data.com/forum/55234876-post77.html

The Scandinavian nations are best termed 'social democracies.' They are free market capitalist with extensive 'safety nets.' Socialism means "gov't ownership of the means of production." Cuba and Venezuela are examples; the Scandis are not.
Well, it's all semantics. And also a matter of degree. But to quote from your link:

“The Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security for its citizens, but it is also a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish,”

When Bernie calls himself a Democratic Socialist, I think this is what he has in mind. And the young Cuban Americans in the OP story, when it said they embrace socialism, I believe this is what they are referring to. So whatever you call it, this Nordic Model sounds good to me. In fact I have no doubt that the US will eventually move in that direction, the only question being how fast. The knee-jerk reaction by some to any hint of socialism need not be; no one in the US is advocating Venezuelan-style socialism.
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Old Yesterday, 10:21 AM
 
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All I know is young people are tired of old politicians and detest mrT - they are mostly more open and very global. I don’t know about socialist but conservatives never. They are still into home and loyalty but don’t like that nobody is paying attention to mass shootings, and they’ve do not like this pulling families apart when this can be fixed administratively. The debt is out of control and that’s on the Republicans so that argument at the rally’s is pfft. They want want to make friends not enemies like mrT. Is pizzing off everyone on the planet. Reps might win one more election- for lack of a good dem candidate, but they are done after that. These kids will be of voting age, and these kids are more aware of what’s going on through social media.
So you don't mind other countries walking all over the US and it's citizens? If standing up for America and Americans is pizzing everyone else off then so be it.
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Old Yesterday, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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Yeah 100%+ tax on cars, 50% taxes on income, no thanks. I'm quite happy here.
Cars aren't needed by everybody there as even he smaller towns are compact and densely built and have mass transit...the population there doesn't complain about 50% income tax because they know it pays for a great safety net...yet they still are very capitalistic and also very environmentally friendly.
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Old Yesterday, 03:16 PM
 
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Yeah 100%+ tax on cars, 50% taxes on income, no thanks. I'm quite happy here.
Of course you are happy - since the debt is being passed onto others who, in future generations, will have to pay the bill with interest.

Free stuff makes most humans happy. So does ice cream.

But it's much harder to stay slim and responsible.
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