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Old Today, 08:15 AM
 
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Welcome to the US of Venezuela.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...ubans-65179094
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Old Today, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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That's one anecdotal story in one community.

Luckily, Gen Z is neither conservative nor liberal. They're libertarian.

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Compared to previous generations when they were young in these national surveys, iGen is more likely to support abortion rights, same-sex marriage and legalizing marijuana and less likely to support the death penalty — usually considered liberal beliefs. But they are also less likely to support gun control, national health care and government environmental regulation — usually considered conservative beliefs.

How can iGen hold these seemingly contradictory beliefs? In short, because they’re libertarians...
https://time.com/4909722/trump-mille...licans-voters/
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Old Today, 09:16 AM
Status: "Should have been a cowgirl!" (set 1 day ago)
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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From your link:

Vila emigrated from Cuba with his parents in 2004, receiving asylum and a pathway to citizenship. Initially optimistic about a new country where anything seemed possible, he became disillusioned with the American dream after his family lost its home during the Great Recession.

As a teen, he identified as a Libertarian-style Republican and spent hours watching YouTube clips of conservative provocateurs lambasting liberals. He served as a congressional intern for longtime Miami Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Republican, and joined a conservative college group.

But something began to shift during the 2016 election. Donald Trump and the Republican Party's increasingly hostile stance toward immigration alienated Vila,
though he agreed with the party on other issues.


Someone who is put off by the "Republican Party's increasingly hostile stance toward immigration" is hardly a socialist. If the Republican party wants to court younger voters, it needs to quit being the party of old white men.

There's a price to pay for espousing xenophobia and fear mongering.
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Old Today, 09:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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[i]Vila emigrated from Cuba with his parents in 2004, receiving asylum and a pathway to citizenship. Initially optimistic about a new country where anything seemed possible, he became disillusioned with the American dream after his family lost its home during the Great Recession.

As a teen, he identified as a Libertarian-style Republican and spent hours watching YouTube clips of conservative provocateurs lambasting liberals. He served as a congressional intern for longtime Miami Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Republican, and joined a conservative college group.

But something began to shift during the 2016 election. Donald Trump and the Republican Party's increasingly hostile stance toward immigration alienated Vila, though he agreed with the party on other issues.

Someone who is put off by the "Republican Party's increasingly hostile stance toward immigration" is hardly a socialist. If the Republican party wants to court younger voters, it needs to quit being the party of old white men.

There's a price to pay for espousing xenophobia and fear mongering.
We've come to a point in this country where uncontrolled illegal immigration is getting out of hand. It will only bring down the quality of living for everyone already here. The Democrats only want to make matters worse. The Republicans and Trump are the only ones that want to address this.

As far as a party for "old white men," no one is stopping nonwhites, females from joining the Republican party. In fact there are plenty of nonwhite females that are Republicans. Sadly because of the herd mentality and Leftist media indoctrination, most nonwhites without thinking, choose to be Democrats.
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Old Today, 09:40 AM
 
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Older conservatives (and old people in general) need to come to grips with the fact that economic success is much harder to obtain for their children than it was for their own generation. Student debt and inflated housing prices are the main problems.

Student debt is growing mostly because employers demand credentials for jobs that don't need them. It creates a rat race with negative economic effects. Employers are benefitting from keeping the costs of human capital development off their books, and don't care that these costs are sucking more and more capital out of more productive investments. It's a tragedy of the commons, the commons being an educated workforce which no employer wants to invest in but every employer wants to take advantage of. I see it every day at work where companies are all trying to poach the same employees from each other and no one wants to hire anyone without experience or credentials. The liberals do have a point here; companies broke the social contract and the costs of the new arrangement fall mostly on the young.

Another reason student debt is exploding is that state funding for public universities has been cut to shore up public employee pension systems. I squarely blame liberals for this state of affairs.

However both cases have been one of the older generation pulling up the ladders.

Housing is more complicated, but in short the metro areas with the most desirable jobs are built out such that commuting from edge sprawl has become unbearable. It's much harder to afford housing comparable to what the older generation achieved - by buying at the metro edge - because the metro edge is so far from job centers that commutes are 1-2 hours one way. So younger people are forced to buy infill development in closer-in areas whose build costs are higher.

Also, older people are living longer than their own parents did, and more often have enough savings to age in place. This means there are many three and four bedroom houses across the country inhabited by empty nesters. That is a huge misallocation of space. I don't blame the elderly for doing this; I would do the same. However it's a problem that the current elderly did not have to contend with as much when they were starting out.
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Old Today, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Well one can't exactly claim that light socialism has been bad for northern Europe. They have some of the best health care and education systems in the world.
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Old Today, 09:43 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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From your link:

Vila emigrated from Cuba with his parents in 2004, receiving asylum and a pathway to citizenship. Initially optimistic about a new country where anything seemed possible, he became disillusioned with the American dream after his family lost its home during the Great Recession.

As a teen, he identified as a Libertarian-style Republican and spent hours watching YouTube clips of conservative provocateurs lambasting liberals. He served as a congressional intern for longtime Miami Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Republican, and joined a conservative college group.

But something began to shift during the 2016 election. Donald Trump and the Republican Party's increasingly hostile stance toward immigration alienated Vila,
though he agreed with the party on other issues.


Someone who is put off by the "Republican Party's increasingly hostile stance toward immigration" is hardly a socialist. If the Republican party wants to court younger voters, it needs to quit being the party of old white men.

There's a price to pay for espousing xenophobia and fear mongering.
Interesting that the OP left out the most interesting part of the article and went straight to 'SOCIALISM!" instead.
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Old Today, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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All I know is young people are tired of old politicians and detest mrT - they are mostly more open and very global. I don’t know about socialist but conservatives never. They are still into home and loyalty but don’t like that nobody is paying attention to mass shootings, and they’ve do not like this pulling families apart when this can be fixed administratively. The debt is out of control and that’s on the Republicans so that argument at the rally’s is pfft. They want want to make friends not enemies like mrT. Is pizzing off everyone on the planet. Reps might win one more election- for lack of a good dem candidate, but they are done after that. These kids will be of voting age, and these kids are more aware of what’s going on through social media.
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Old Today, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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No. Welcome to the US of Denmark.
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Old Today, 10:20 AM
 
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No. Welcome to the US of Denmark.
We will never be Venezuela or Denmark, thankfully.
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