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Old 08-25-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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Pretty much. But that sort of thing is good for science -- studies needs to be based on reproducible results. The chart he produced, which omits the regional climate-variations of the little ice age and the medieval warm period, may well be valid. Hopefully this will drive more studies on a wider global scale of historical climate trends.
On what planet is hiding research data good for science ?????

Never mind.

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Old 08-25-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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We've known for quite some time the data has been manipulated.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Mann knows he faked the data. Producing it in discovery will expose his scam, so he took the hit on losing the lawsuit he himself filed against Dr. Tim Ball and will have to reimburse Dr. Ball for all legal costs and expenses Ball incurred defending himself against Mann's allegations.

Breaking News: Dr Tim Ball Defeats Michael Mann’s Climate Lawsuit
Mann is one of the dumbest people in this country and thin skinned if people disagree with his theories.

It looks like Mark Steyn beat Mann's defamation suit against him in the US if it ever goes to trial.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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Mann is one of the dumbest people in this country and thin skinned if people disagree with his theories.
It is pretty stupid to file a defamation lawsuit and then refuse to produce the data required to prove your case, even when ordered to do so by the court. What did Mann think would happen? Did he think the court would rule in his favor just because? Sheer idiocy.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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It is pretty stupid to file a defamation lawsuit and then refuse to produce the data required to prove your case, even when ordered to do so by the court. What did Mann think would happen? Did he think the court would rule in his favor just because? Sheer idiocy.
He was hoping for a judge with an agenda.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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Judge: You've been accused of fraud, Professor Mann. We are going to need your data to reconcile your findings.

Mann: Eh, my word is good and I'm sure I'm right. Just go with that.

Judge: It's impossible to rule in your favor without the data.

Mann: Yeah ...... No.

Judge: (Gavel slams) Decision for defendant, Dr. Ball. Next!

Bonus: Mann: So glad I won this case.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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Bill Nye the idiot guy will be crying to his boyfriend about this.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Planet earth
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I genuinely believe this won't matter a bit to those who have bought into the CAGW/CACC scam. CAGW/CACC is their belief. It is their religion. It is the excuse they will tout out for their attempt to destroy the entire economies of most, if not all Western civilization nations, which they believe are driven by evil capitalism as they type their tweets and FB posts on their IPads and IPhones. It allows them to point their collective fingers at any who disagree, blaming "those" people for not caring, while secretly hiding the fact that they hate themselves for their own contribution to the supposed CAGW/CACC crisis. It allows them to proclaim to the world, "I care! Why don't you care?" as they live off all the largess and comfort that capitalism has provided them while at the same time screaming that others are evil for profiting from all that largess and comfort they themselves enjoy, demanding those people stop profiting and living a life of luxury while they project their own self-hatred upon others.


I honestly believe many/most of them don't even realize that they have been indoctrinated into this faith, this religion known as CAGW/CACC, and that is what saddens me the most because I am certain that they believe in this scam with all their hearts. I cannot come up with any other reason why they would fight so hard to push a narrative that science, facts, evidence, historical data and even email communications between scientists promoting CAGW/CACC leave anyone with an ounce of integrity and honesty to believe this has all been proven to be a huge scam. Yet they are the ever faithful. GOD bless them all.


But then again, that's just MY opinion, for what it's worth.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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you would think.....Mann would have posted his data and methods on every billboard...on every highway in the country

...unless there was some reason he wanted to hide it
 
Old 08-25-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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Mann knows he faked the data. Producing it in discovery will expose his scam, so he took the hit on losing the lawsuit he himself filed against Dr. Tim Ball and will have to reimburse Dr. Ball for all legal costs and expenses Ball incurred defending himself against Mann's allegations.

Breaking News: Dr Tim Ball Defeats Michael Mannís Climate Lawsuit
Mann was nearly dismissed from the physics department of Penn State for his fraud, but was saved by the chancellor due to political pressure.

Just another scam artists trying to distort rational science for a political agenda.
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