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Old 08-25-2019, 11:27 AM
 
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Bill Nye the idiot guy will be crying to his boyfriend about this.
This isn`t the place to be bringing gay fantasies.

 
Old 08-25-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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On what planet is hiding research data good for science ?????
None. Sarcasm noted. I suppose my point is that science is not settled through lawsuits.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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None. Sarcasm noted. I suppose my point is that science is not settled through lawsuits.
Didn't detect sarcasm. My bad on that.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Mann knows he faked the data. Producing it in discovery will expose his scam, so he took the hit on losing the lawsuit he himself filed against Dr. Tim Ball and will have to reimburse Dr. Ball for all legal costs and expenses Ball incurred defending himself against Mann's allegations.

Breaking News: Dr Tim Ball Defeats Michael Manns Climate Lawsuit
Excellent.

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Read about this earlier. Mann won't produce his regression data, because if he did, he would expose himself as a fraud and implicate all the fraudsters that have used his graph to either make themselves rich or extract taxpayer money from the US.

I'm glad he lost. He won't admit it, but he lost big. LOL.

I'm tired of leftists using science as a vehicle for their endless lies.
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Another sign that Man Made Climate Change is a Hoax and a Scam. Our former President certainly doesn't believe in it.
Thats right.

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It's crazy that a researcher would refuse to divulge the methods and data behind their research, even when required by a court of law. Such a brazen flouting of scientific norms immediately discredits the researcher.
The whole thing is a hoax based on intentionally misinterpreted data.

Global warming isn't even a theory, it's an hypothesis based upon an unproven claim that the climate of Venus was destroyed by CO2 leaving it a barren wasteland.

Other than higher CO2 levels, there's nothing happening now that didn't already happen in the other 8 Inter-Glacial Periods and CO2 levels in those Periods was 260 ppm to 280 ppm CO2.

The Greenland Ice Sheet always melts, sometimes in its entirety and sometimes just 80%-90%.

Sea levels always rise 3 meters to 14 meters. The Western Antarctic Ice Sheet always undergoes substantial melting and at least twice the Eastern Antarctic Ice Sheet has undergone substantial melting.

Why should this Inter-Glacial Period be any different than the other 8 recorded periods?

Because we were stupid enough to build cities on coastal areas?

That's not science.

Look out! Science Alert!

Our pollen-based climatic reconstruction suggests a mean temperature of the warmest month (MTWA) range of 914.5 C during the warmest interval of the last interglacial. The reconstruction from plant macrofossils, representing more local environments, reached MTWA values above 12.5 C in contrast to today's 2.8 C.

https://people.ucsc.edu/~acr/migrate...0al%202008.pdf

Just to make sure we're clear on the concept, 12.5C is 22.5F warmer than present temperatures.

From applications of both correspondence analysis regression and best modern analogue methodologies, we infer July air temperatures of the last interglacial to have been 4 to 5 C warmer than present on eastern Baffin Island, which was warmer than any interval within the Holocene.

https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._Arctic_Canada

Again, to make sure we're clear on the concept, 4.0C - 5.0C is 7.2F - 9.0F.


Palaeo data suggest that Greenland must have been largely ice free during Marine Isotope Stage 11 (MIS-11). The globally averaged MIS-11 sea level is estimated to have reached between 613 m above that of today.

[emphasis mine]

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms16008


Even though the warm Eemian period was a period when the oceans were four to eight meters higher than today, the ice sheet in northwest Greenland was only a few hundred meters lower than the current level, which indicates that the contribution from the Greenland ice sheet was less than half the total sea-level rise during that period, says Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Professor at the Niels Bohr Institute, University of Copenhagen, and leader of the NEEM-project.

[emphasis mine]

https://www.nbi.ku.dk/english/news/n...e-of-the-past/


Thermoluminescence (TL) and electron spin resonance (ESR) ages from sediments and fossil shells point to an age of ∼220 ka for the end of this marine transgression, thus correlating it to MIS 7 (substage 7e). Altimetric data point to a maximum amplitude of about 10 meters above present-day mean sea-level, but tectonic processes may be involved.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25590701


Again, nothing abnormal is happening in spite of global warming nutter's claims to the contrary.

Every prediction they've made has been a massive fail.

We're supposed to be overwhelmed with hurricanes and yet this season is the second slowest this Century and the second year in a row with no hurricanes in June.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 01:32 PM
 
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All I can find is right-wing blogs talking about this, anyone have any credible sources on this story?
 
Old 08-25-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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All I can find is right-wing blogs talking about this, anyone have any credible sources on this story?
The mainstream media will probably ignore it. Bias by omission is very common with them.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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All I can find is right-wing blogs talking about this, anyone have any credible sources on this story?
Of course not. Because the propaganda pages you call "credible sources" don't print stories that run counter to the agenda of forcing socialism down the throats of the American people. Just because your echo chamber isn't echoing this doesn't mean it isn't true.

So much for science.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Leftists want to criminalize any dissent to their crazy theories.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 02:19 PM
 
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Leftists want to criminalize any dissent to their crazy theories.


A valid hypothesis will hold up to scrutiny with further evidence and does not need "revisions" of data and papers to support it.


AGW is academic fraud and is the biggest hoax ever to be foisted upon the world.


With AGW, the scientific method has been vacated and its promoters advocate a return to the middle ages, in which sorcery, witches, and evil humors account for phenomenon observed in the world.


One hundred years from now, historians will look back upon this with amusement that people could be so gullible to embrace this hoax.


Explain to me again, all of you AGW "scientists", why mean atmospheric barometric pressure has not increased in the last 100 years to accompany the "increase in temperature"? It is simple physics- Boyle's Law has not been disproven. Thus................. perhaps...........the AGW hypothesis is bunk.
 
Old 08-25-2019, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Mann had 9 years to produce the data. He did not do so. The court decided to dismiss the lawsuit because of the delay.

If he wanted a chance to win the case, he first had to provide the data.

He did, in fact, lose this case.

If the conflict is over whether he manipulated data, it is not unfair to ask him to provide the data.
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