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Old Yesterday, 10:09 AM
 
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They’re not evil, but they’re all about making money by any means..
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Old Yesterday, 10:57 AM
 
Location: SGV
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They’re not evil, but they’re all about making money by any means..
What's wrong with making money?
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Old Yesterday, 11:05 AM
 
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What's wrong with making money?
Nothing, until people get exploited and natural resources sucked up without regard for anyone else or the regard for the environment, as well as destroying said environment. Hence, any means..
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Old Yesterday, 11:09 AM
 
Location: SGV
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Nothing, until people get exploited and natural resources sucked up without regard for anyone else or the regard for the environment, as well as destroying said environment. Hence, any means..
Well, it's probably time to end statism/socialism then. It's the primary driver of those issues.

You may be a capitalist yet!

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Old Yesterday, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The apolitical definition of a corporation...I have no problem with. It means, in a stateless society, a voluntary collective with a purview strictly limited to the adherents. Your voluntary collective is able to negotiate business matters at a swifter, more efficient clip (in theory) through voluntary private insurance, voluntary private resolution councils, and voluntary private criminal justice proceedings...if that's how you want to roll.

The political definition of a "corporation" is a legal term and only exists under the State. It is a State subsidiary licensed to effectively operate outside the State's laws and regulations when it's not writing and enforcing them on the State's behalf. A corporation, in this setting, is a statist creation and an abomination. Pure evil.

I know the posters who will accept this truism and the ones who will not. Should we start signing our names to the bottom?

Actually it is government that is pure evil and individuals wh wish to own a business have little choice but to incorporate.
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Old Yesterday, 11:37 AM
 
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They’re not evil, but they’re all about making money by any means..
By any means? No corporation or individual is allowed to harm others with impunity.
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Old Yesterday, 11:41 AM
 
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By any means? No corporation or individual is allowed to harm others with impunity.
Just like people aren’t allowed to rob banks. But it still happens.

Corporations are just rich enough to get away with it..
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Old Yesterday, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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My biggest gripe with a lot of big US based multi-national corporations are the ones who promote leftist politics, outsourcing and open borders.
Yep.

Disney, Gillete, Proctor & Gamble, etc.
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Old Yesterday, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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By any means? No corporation or individual is allowed to harm others with impunity.
You haven't quite figured this out yet. You and I are nothing more than simple citizens; we have but one vote, and we have almost no ability to influence the laws of the land or our legislators. Corporations on the other hand, as legitimized through Citizens United, have become Super-Citizens. Unlike individuals they have been granted nearly limitless ability to influence law and legislation to their benefit through corporate dollars. In other words, through corruption.

Should they fall foul of any of the few laws and regulations that are left to constrain them, as another poster pointed out - they have access to legal teams and resources that we as working class serfs can only dream about.
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Old Yesterday, 01:23 PM
 
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Consumers rarely behave according to moral principle. The whole point of materialism is to form a passive population through excessive consumption.
Well, then, there you have it. Perhaps if the US had a public school system that actually teaches students HOW to think instead of WHAT to think, our population wouldn't be so indoctrinated into a materialistic-centric lifestyle and people would choose to do without the products/services sold by corporations like Apple and Google (includes Android products/services) that exploit cheap foreign labor and lower-paid H-1B workers to line their pockets with huge profits.

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Its like a drug addiction, people become reliant on consumer entertainment and work related products to live while the social underlining of our society erodes.
Again... the number one culprit: the US public school system.

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Small businesses may not be efficient, but they provide a community forward direction that something as homogeneous as a Walmart does not.

And even as far as the argument that big businesses pay workers more, they also raise cost of living and supercharge government policy to promote their invest economic viability.

Financial institutions are important because corporations are important, and as long as they are responsible for mass employment and production capacity the government will continue to cater them.

Consumers almost always pick the cheaper/better product because they don't evaluate long term costs or consequences.

Corporate America uses that to their advantage building a reliable population that behaves in a predictable manner.
Yep. Try fighting against that. Everyone would have to accept a lower standard of living and few, if any, are willing to do so.
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