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Old Today, 12:09 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Daryl_G View Post
If it takes this much explaining, You lost the fight.
Well, the bright shiny object of a simple bald-faced lie is much easier for the TDS-afflicted to swallow.

 
Old Today, 12:10 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Even though the media knew the President was referring to the vast majority of the protesters that were there to save the statues and history, not minority of white supremacists and he even made that clear, but the DNC/MSM pushes the lie and continue to do so.
Really? How many NOT white nationalist Trump supporters were there marching with with the White Nationalists?
Pretty much no one else for them to march with.
 
Old Today, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Let's be more precise. Trump said that white supremacist group included "very fine people." He did not use the word "Nazi" and he did not apply it to all Alt-Right people. But he clearly claimed a false equivalency between the two sides, and clearly felt that it was possible to be a hate-mongering neo-Nazi and still be a "fine person."
not what he said at all.
 
Old Today, 12:50 PM
 
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Really? How many NOT white nationalist Trump supporters were there marching with with the White Nationalists?
Pretty much no one else for them to march with.
Can anyone provide any proof of these people there who just happened to be hanging out with the hate groups but were just there to support the statue?
 
Old Today, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Got to wonder what's behind all this affection for a statue commemorating a traitor.

Taking up arms against the nation you have sworn allegiance to is the very definition of treason.

Somebody should smack your teachers for not educating you properly. The United States was formed when we rebelled against the British monarchy. Our founding fathers were the rebels, the traitors, guilty of treason even, everything you seem to hate. I couldn't be more proud of our founding fathers. Oh ya, and some of our great founding fathers were also slave owners. An inconvenient truth perhaps, but it happened, and what's done is done.

As for Lee, he was a noble military general who was fighting for the land he loved, and his home and family in the south. You probably wouldn't understand because history is not your strong subject.
 
Old Today, 01:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
Let's be more precise. Trump said that white supremacist group included "very fine people." He did not use the word "Nazi" and he did not apply it to all Alt-Right people. But he clearly claimed a false equivalency between the two sides, and clearly felt that it was possible to be a hate-mongering neo-Nazi and still be a "fine person."
How about you start being accurate and stop telling lies. You know the truth that the two sides PRESIDENT TRUMP referred to where those in favor of, and those against, the removal of statues etc., commemorating Southern Civil War Generals etc.

Your and your side's perpetual lying is disgusting, but entirely expected.
 
Old Today, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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https://www.prageru.com/video/the-charlottesville-lie/

I have been looking for something like this. The narrator of the above video is CNN political analyst Steve Cortes. It's longer than necessary, but well done, complete with amusing cartoons. You can get the gist by watching from @1:35 through about 2:45. Or by reading the below snippet. Quoting Cortes:



Please post a link to this thread whenever a poster tries to spread this provably inaccurate meme about Trump and Charlottesville. Or when Joe Biden uses the meme/lie in one of his ads, as he already has.
My view on the whole Trump response to the Charlottesville situation was more him not choosing his words correctly and it was taken the wrong way. this is not unusual for the media and certainly not unusual for Trump to open mouth, put foot in it.
 
Old Today, 02:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
Let's be more precise. Trump said that white supremacist group included "very fine people." He did not use the word "Nazi" and he did not apply it to all Alt-Right people. But he clearly claimed a false equivalency between the two sides, and clearly felt that it was possible to be a hate-mongering neo-Nazi and still be a "fine person."
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This is the liberal lie that is exposed on this very thread. Please stop repeating the lies.
It's an exact quote. It's on video.
 
Old Today, 03:07 PM
 
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He came out against neo nazis and white supremacists, but did defend the people who were legitimately protesting the removal of the Robert E Lee statue.

Some people do value our history and would like to make sure future generations know and understand our history so we do not have to relive the mistakes of the past.
Were there any such people there? Can you provide examples with pics/video?
 
Old Today, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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You think a political whitewash job somehow absolves Trump of his comments???

You haven't "proved" anything.....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...harlottesville

If you Trump true believers get worked up about supposed "lies" told by Biden and his campaign how do you handle the fact that the only time Trump isn't lying is when his mouth isn't moving...
What happened in Charlottesville didn't start on August 12, 2017. It started with what is often referred to as an "activist city council" voting 3-2 to remove statues based upon the complaints of some citizens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert...ille,_Virginia)


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In response, a lawsuit was filed on March 20 by numerous plaintiffs, including the Monument Fund Inc, the Sons of Confederate Veterans, and descendants of the statue's donor and sculptor, to block the removal of the Lee and Jackson statues. The lawsuit sought a temporary injunction to halt the removal, arguing that Charlottesville City Council's decision violated a state law designed to protect American Civil War monuments and memorials, and that the council had additionally violated the terms of McIntire's gift to Charlottesville of the statue and the land for Lee Park.[10] The city responded by asking that the temporary injunction be denied, arguing that the two statues were not erected to commemorate the Civil War and therefore the Virginia statute protecting war monuments does not apply.
BTW, 6 months after the ill-fated weekend, a judge indeed ruled the City Council couldn't remove the statues.

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Protesters to the rally itself gathered the following day (in May 2017, after a similar Unite the Right rally) and held a silent candlelight vigil that attracted over a hundred of the town's citizens,[17][19] and the incumbent mayor of Charlottesville, Michael Signer. Signer, who opposed the statue's removal, condemned the initial rally the night before. The organizations dedicated to preserving the Robert E. Lee statue issued a statement denying any involvement in the rally.[16] Despite some conflict, no arrests were made and no one was injured.[18][15]
on Saturday Aug 12, during the midst of the disturbance, but before Heather Heyer is murdered:

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We ALL must be united & condemn all that hate stands for. There is no place for this kind of violence in America. Lets come together as one!
-Trump
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