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Old Yesterday, 04:40 PM
Status: "but it depends on what the definition of "is" is." (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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https://www.prageru.com/video/the-charlottesville-lie/

I have been looking for something like this. The narrator of the above video is CNN political analyst Steve Cortes. It's longer than necessary, but well done, complete with amusing cartoons. You can get the gist by watching from @1:35 through about 2:45. Or by reading the below snippet. Quoting Cortes:

Quote:
The media reported that President Trump described neo-Nazis as 'very fine people.' Only, he didn't--in fact, he didn't even hint at it. Just the opposite--he condemned the neo-Nazis in no uncertain terms.

So then, who were the 'fine people' he mentioned? The answer: he was referring to another group of demonstrators who came out that weekend--protesters who wanted the Robert E. Lee statue removed, and protesters who wanted to keep the statue...

This is what President Trump said about those peaceful protesters: "you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group... that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”

A few moments later, in case there would be any misunderstanding, he [Trump] makes his meaning even more explicit: “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists. They should be condemned totally.”
Please post a link to this thread whenever a poster tries to spread this provably inaccurate meme about Trump and Charlottesville. Or when Joe Biden uses the meme/lie in one of his ads, as he already has.

 
Old Yesterday, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The fact is, those protesters had every right to assemble and demonstrate. They clearly were there to protest the removal of the Robert E Lee status. The deadly incident would have never happened if the counter protesters minded their own damn business and left them alone. More often than not, these counter protesters are just out to hassle and harass people, and they accomplish nothing. In this case, an unnecessary death and many injuries were the result.

Not only that, someone moved a barricade allowing the driver of the charger to enter the street where the counter protesters were. The police were supposed to have this area secure. It's possible that the driver wondered in on accident, thinking the road was open. The events that led up to the car plowing into the crowd are something of a mystery. But how many times have we seen these protesters swarm vehicles? Lot of rumors about that being the case. But the guy was a confirmed white supremacist and neo nazi. No big loss to society, as he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

The events that happened that day are pretty much forgotten by most. They just know that one innocent women died. And a lot of people like to blame Trump supporters and Trump, out of laziness and convenience.
 
Old Yesterday, 04:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
I have been looking for something like this. The narrator of the above video is CNN political analyst Steve Cortes. It's longer than necessary, but well done, complete with amusing cartoons. You can get the gist by watching from @1:35 through about 2:45. Or by reading the below snippet. Quoting Cortes:

Please post a link to this thread whenever a poster tries to spread this provably inaccurate meme about Trump and Charlottesville. Or when Joe Biden uses the meme/lie in one of his ads, as he already has.
Let's be more precise. Trump said that white supremacist group included "very fine people." He did not use the word "Nazi" and he did not apply it to all Alt-Right people. But he clearly claimed a false equivalency between the two sides, and clearly felt that it was possible to be a hate-mongering neo-Nazi and still be a "fine person."
 
Old Yesterday, 04:59 PM
 
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Let's be more precise. Trump said that white supremacist group included "very fine people." He did not use the word "Nazi" and he did not apply it to all Alt-Right people. But he clearly claimed a false equivalency between the two sides, and clearly felt that it was possible to be a hate-mongering neo-Nazi and still be a "fine person."
This is the liberal lie that is exposed on this very thread. Please stop repeating the lies.
 
Old Yesterday, 05:23 PM
 
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Let's be more precise. Trump said that white supremacist group included "very fine people." He did not use the word "Nazi" and he did not apply it to all Alt-Right people. But he clearly claimed a false equivalency between the two sides, and clearly felt that it was possible to be a hate-mongering neo-Nazi and still be a "fine person."
And this is why there is so much division in this country.
 
Old Yesterday, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Originally Posted by Clarallel View Post
Let's be more precise. Trump said that white supremacist group included "very fine people." He did not use the word "Nazi" and he did not apply it to all Alt-Right people. But he clearly claimed a false equivalency between the two sides, and clearly felt that it was possible to be a hate-mongering neo-Nazi and still be a "fine person."

Stop lying. They were there to protest the removal of the statue of Robert E Lee. He was a proud and talented military general who happened to fight for the confederacy. It happened, the nation healed, we all moved on, except some people who choose to still be bitter today and want to destroy our history.
 
Old Yesterday, 05:32 PM
 
Location: El paso,tx
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
https://www.prageru.com/video/the-charlottesville-lie/

I have been looking for something like this. The narrator of the above video is CNN political analyst Steve Cortes. It's longer than necessary, but well done, complete with amusing cartoons. You can get the gist by watching from @1:35 through about 2:45. Or by reading the below snippet. Quoting Cortes:



Please post a link to this thread whenever a poster tries to spread this provably inaccurate meme about Trump and Charlottesville. Or when Joe Biden uses the meme/lie in one of his ads, as he already has.
Thank you for posting this. You should go on all the dem candidates twitters and link this.
 
Old Yesterday, 05:35 PM
 
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Even though the media knew the President was referring to the vast majority of the protesters that were there to save the statues and history, not minority of white supremacists and he even made that clear, but the DNC/MSM pushes the lie and continue to do so.
 
Old Yesterday, 05:42 PM
Status: "but it depends on what the definition of "is" is." (set 26 days ago)
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Even though the media knew the President was referring to the vast majority of the protesters that were there to save the statues and history, not minority of white supremacists and he even made that clear, but the DNC/MSM pushes the lie and continue to do so.
Yes, and it was in Biden's very first campaign ad, or at least the first one from him that I saw.
 
Old Yesterday, 05:43 PM
 
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Even though the media knew the President was referring to the vast majority of the protesters that were there to save the statues and history, not minority of white supremacists and he even made that clear, but the DNC/MSM pushes the lie and continue to do so.
This is where YOU are misinformed.

The majority of the protest were the white supremacist groups and , in fact the whole protest was organized by white supremacist groups - and sold as a love of statues.......so some fine people showed up.

It may be Trump meant to recognize the few people who are so naive they chose to join in the protest thinking they were saving statues , when they were most definitely naive to the actual mission of the group that organized it

When given a chance to correct, back down from the implication that the white supremacist groups were 'fine people', Trump refused.

The optics were horrible.

A good leader, President, would be able in that case to declare his concern for all parties that were victims of violence, support the love of a statue, and condemn white supremacists. He couldn't do it because he was afraid to lose the alt. right.
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