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Old 08-26-2019, 07:24 AM
 
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Trump is heavily manipulating the market with his constant lies and exaggerations.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:25 AM
 
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Yes very timely, Trump goes to the G& and all of a sudden close to a deal.

It's a good thing.

Should have happened a year and half ago.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:26 AM
 
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If Trump doesn't win a second term, China will simply go back to screwing the US over 100 different ways. Yet another reason to make sure some worthless globalist/statist like Biden or Warren doesn't win the White House in 2020.
Whats interesting is that the most powerful country in the world somehow is a huge victim according to Trump supporters while other developed countries are doing just fine when it comes to trade with China and some even have a trade surplus with China. Could it be that instead of foreigners being the culprit, you are being duped and the real culprits of the demise of the working class is the Reagan/Wall Street gang over the last 40 years who've bought your politicians you continue to vote for?
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:35 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Whats interesting is that the most powerful country in the world somehow is a huge victim according to Trump supporters while other developed countries are doing just fine when it comes to trade with China and some even have a trade surplus with China. Could it be that instead of foreigners being the culprit, you are being duped and the real culprits of the demise of the working class is the Reagan/Wall Street gang over the last 40 years who've bought your politicians you continue to vote for?
Jesus. It's ridiculous enough when Trump supporters blame everything on Obama. Now you're going all the way back to Reagan and blaming him, despite 16 years of Democratic administrations.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:36 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Whats interesting is that the most powerful country in the world somehow is a huge victim according to Trump supporters while other developed countries are doing just fine when it comes to trade with China and some even have a trade surplus with China. Could it be that instead of foreigners being the culprit, you are being duped and the real culprits of the demise of the working class is the Reagan/Wall Street gang over the last 40 years who've bought your politicians you continue to vote for?
You really believe this don't you?
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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Jesus. It's ridiculous enough when Trump supporters blame everything on Obama. Now you're going all the way back to Reagan and blaming him, despite 16 years of Democratic administrations.
Yes, there is ample evidence that the destruction of the working class and rising inequality really took off under Reagan. 40 years of wage stagnation for the typical male worker and massive social problems and despair is an inevitable result.

A question to you: Name one society that has created a thriving middle class while labor unions are destroyed and a tiny oligarchy can buy the politicians people vote for?
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's a wild, wild, ride when you hitch your wagon to Donald Trump. His approach is to throw things at the wall to see what sticks. He has no problem whatsoever gambling with the financial futures of the peons in the heartland - after all from his point of view what's a few billion here or there? Plus he knows that even if his bedazzled base ends up penniless as a result of his shenanigans, they will STILL keep following him down the path.

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Old 08-26-2019, 07:51 AM
 
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Yep, keep drinking that MAGA koolaid. It'll help you avoid considering the logic and ramifications that trump has to run for reelection next year and Xi doesn't

Even trump knows this which is why he blinked at the last second and rolled back tariffs for the Christmas season
The biggest problem with an uneducated populace is their unrecognized ignorance, and the ease at which they can be manipulated. There is no greater evidence of this than the woefully uninformed opinions of the drooling left regarding China, and what the Trump Administration is dealing with, and what the strategy is.

While totally immersed in the phony hoax of Russia Collusion, the left is completely clueless to the greatest threat facing the United States, and all of the Western nations and the respective economic futures, which is China. Furthermore, what has been erroneously labeled a matter of tariffs versus free trade, the situation with China is exponentially more complex. This is a matter of long term, geopolitical strategy, and will ultimately and dramatically shape global economics for decades to come. Continuing the status quo of going along to get along will ultimately allow China to be successful in their decades long and ongoing efforts to establish themselves as the preeminent and dominant global economic force, reducing the West to that of a vassal partner, subject to Chinese will, and Chinese interests.

The overall theme of MAGA has been so bastardized by leftwing globalist propaganda, that much of the general public has been reduced to viewing this with childlike vision. The truth is, MAGA is a geopolitical strategy against globalism, and Trump is not making all of these decisions and plans on his own, or in a vacuum. He was recruited for this enormous and urgent task by elements within our country who have a much deeper understanding of the history and threat we’re dealing with regarding globalism, and the ongoing efforts in the globalist plan to totally deindustrialize the United States, and what that will ultimately lead to, if not stopped now. The facts are, for the past 20-30 years, the globalists have been playing Chess, while the public has been trained to believe the game is checkers. The ultimate strategy of the globalists is to wrest the United States of its global economic super power status, and relocate it to China. Should they be successful, the American people, in all of their clueless ignorance are going to wake up to a reality they are not going to enjoy at all. Nobody is prepared for what that future would look like. Think of San Francisco or Seattle as the poster children, and best case scenario for what to expect. Think Detroit, for worst case.

When I hear idiots calling Trump an idiot ... I hold my hands to my head and pray they are enough of a minority so that they will not be successful in 2020 in removing Trump for another globalist shill, who will restore the old game-plan Trump is now dismantling.

For those anti-Trumpers out there .. please educate yourselves, and stop listening to the fake news nonsense being fed you. At this point, enough has already been revealed that there is simply no excuse for remaining so ignorant.

If you want to truly understand what is at stake here, try to summon enough attention to take in the following discussion which lays out the very complex and critical moment in history we’re now seeing unfold ...


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qH5QzuzD01A
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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The end is near for China, one way or another.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chi...-year-flatline

Let's keep to the quote from the Vice Premier.......‘resolutely opposes escalation of the US trade war’, prefers ‘calm negotiations’, vice-premier says

Not exactly confirming any concessions ...just ongoing negotiations.

Nothing new here kids......


Let's not kid ourselves...China new that if they tacked on tariffs Trump would -- at a minimum -- implement the tariffs he had backed down on.

I think sometimes Americans think that everyone else but them can play the game.

The Chinese are not naive.
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Old 08-26-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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It'll help you avoid considering the logic and ramifications that trump has to run for reelection next year and Xi doesn't

Translation: They know a Democrat will cave and it will be back to bad business as usual.
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