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Old 08-27-2019, 05:47 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Most right wingers have no idea what socialism is. They sure love their Medicare and ss though
I'm loving that Medicare, I've paid into for 40 years! How about you?
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:50 AM
 
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just give Trump supporters a red hat and a maga/kaga sticker. And they will stay Ignorant and happy.
Ftfy...
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:51 AM
 
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I'm loving that Medicare, I've paid into for 40 years! How about you?
Decades myself. I don't expect to see it though and I'm fine with it being scaled back
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I can't speak for every millennial, but I have at least one debate with my stepson every time I see him. He is pretty far left and I am pretty close to center (further right on economic issues). I will say in his case he is not at all uneducated and passive in his beliefs. He has read a lot (not just on one side) and informed himself. His opinions are well-reasoned. I disagree with him on a lot and I am sure our debates will continue. In this day and age the refreshing thing is that they are debates and not mud-slinging fights. But I wouldn't say he is misinformed just because he disagrees with me on a number of fronts.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:00 AM
 
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The Growing Danger of Misinformed Millennials - Lloyd Marcus





So many comments by Millennials seem to be based on poor education. I see this all the time with grand kid and grand kid's friends (almost 20 years old and highschool grads)



Simple things cannot be answered because of ignorance


Things lik,e what is Socialism? What is Capitalism? What is the Bill of Rights?


When I try to answer, "I don't know anything!"
They probably dont like you and dont want to engage, or its your grandkid. Statistically speaking millennials are the most educated generation we ever had. Your generation has been conditioned by decades of cold war marketing, and you lump a lot of terms together, and deal exclusively in slippery slopes.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Decades myself. I don't expect to see it though and I'm fine with it being scaled back
scale it back translates to larger premiums for a supplemental plan, which everyone needs. No thanks. If you guys want to "scale it back" for the younger generation still working, have at it.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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The right are the ones stuck in the past. We pretty much have to explain things to them in crayon. And theyed still claim “hoax”..
Exactly! The label "conservative" means just that - someone who wants to conserve the status quo. In the case of Trump, he wants to take America back to the 1950s. But time stops for nobody, the world moves on and if you stay mired in the past the world will leave you in the dust.

The irony here is that the right has traditionally been staunch capitalists but now they are complaining about how capitalism has moved their jobs overseas and they are whining for the government, which used to be evil in their minds, to fix it for them.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:11 AM
 
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I'm loving that Medicare, I've paid into for 40 years! How about you?
I paid in for 40 also - but I think it should be means-tested because it is not paying for itself.

Don't you agree that things should pay for themselves?

As to Misinformed Millennials, that sounds like a new form of "get off my lawn". I never for a second, even as a Senior, thought "my generation knew better". I guess that's a badge of honor....
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:24 AM
 
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They probably dont like you and dont want to engage, or its your grandkid. Statistically speaking millennials are the most educated generation we ever had. Your generation has been conditioned by decades of cold war marketing, and you lump a lot of terms together, and deal exclusively in slippery slopes.
If true, the following IS a problem:

Millennials. The most dumbed-down generation, to date, in US history.

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"U.S. millennials performed horribly.

That might even be an understatement, given the extent of the American shortcomings. No matter how you sliced the data – by class, by race, by education – young Americans were laggards compared to their international peers. In every subject, U.S. millennials ranked at the bottom or very close to it, according to a new study by testing company ETS.

“We were taken aback,” said ETS researcher Anita Sands. “We tend to think millennials are really savvy in this area. But that’s not what we are seeing.”

...This exam [OECD's PIAAC], given in 23 countries, assessed the thinking abilities and workplace skills of adults. It focused on literacy, math and technological problem-solving. The goal was to figure out how prepared people are to work in a complex, modern society. And U.S. millennials performed horribly...

But surely America’s brightest were on top?

Nope.

U.S. millennials with master’s degrees and doctorates did better than their peers in only three countries, Ireland, Poland and Spain...The ETS study noted that a decade ago the skill level of American adults was judged mediocre. “Now it is below even that.” So Millennials are falling even further behind.

Top-scoring US millennials – the 90th percentile on the PIAAC test – were at the bottom internationally, ranking higher only than their peers in Spain. The bottom scorers (10th percentile) also lagged behind their peers."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.caf173a2db29

Let that sink in...

"But surely America’s brightest were on top?

Nope.

U.S. millennials with master’s degrees and doctorates did better than their peers in only three countries, Ireland, Poland and Spain...The ETS study noted that a decade ago the skill level of American adults was judged mediocre. “Now it is below even that.” So Millennials are falling even further behind.


Top-scoring US millennials – the 90th percentile on the PIAAC test – were at the bottom internationally, ranking higher only than their peers in Spain. The bottom scorers (10th percentile) also lagged behind their peers."
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:25 AM
 
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The Growing Danger of Misinformed Millennials - Lloyd Marcus





So many comments by Millennials seem to be based on poor education. I see this all the time with grand kid and grand kid's friends (almost 20 years old and highschool grads)



Simple things cannot be answered because of ignorance


Things lik,e what is Socialism? What is Capitalism? What is the Bill of Rights?


When I try to answer, "I don't know anything!"

I don't consider myself a democrat or republican, liberal or conservative. I am a little bit of both....and something different than either. People see me as a liberal. I don't care....that is fine. However, here is my problem. The back and forth are reduced to talking points and mantras. I see very little critical thinking on behalf of people.



I started reading the article in the link when I ran across "because I don't see myself as a victim". This is one of the biggest fallacies from the right. Anyone who votes sees themselves as a victim....or at the very least....a potential victim (of the opposition parties politics and policies). Conservatives spend so much time bashing liberals and trying to keep liberals from office OUT OF FEAR OF BEING VICTIMS OF THEIR POLICIES!!! If they really believed that PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY was the ROOT of well being....then would it really matter what party is controlling the White House or congress or what way the Supreme Court leans? They felt "victimized" by the Affordable Care Act. Please....stop with the BS. The whole theme of the article is to suggest that millennials are being VICTIMIZED by liberal thought.....and need SAVING. The whole article reeks of seeing people as.....VICTIMS.



Ultimately what people like the author parrots is this mantra that racism has not and does not create victims, unless one CHOOSES to let it do so. However, LIBERALISM has and does create victims and it is responsible for the mess the country and black people are in.
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