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Old 08-26-2019, 05:04 PM
 
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Greg Fishel, respected meteorologist, wrote a rant of Facebook criticizing people who question the science behind climate change, telling them to “put up or shut up.” He says climate deniers are self-appointed "experts" who just post junk on the internet and none of their stuff has ever been published in a peer reviewed atmospheric science or climate journal. He challenges them to do just that.

Read Fishel's post here: PUT UP OR SHUT UP

I agree. If climate deniers have a mechanism that explains how increased CO2 and methane don't heat the Earth, and supply a rigorous proof that Arrhenius was wrong, then let's see it. Get it published.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:09 PM
 
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Tell that fool nobody denies that the climate changes.

As Bugs would say, what a maroon.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:12 PM
 
Location: New York
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Greg Fishel, respected meteorologist, wrote a rant of Facebook criticizing people who question the science behind climate change, telling them to “put up or shut up.” He says climate deniers are self-appointed "experts" who just post junk on the internet and none of their stuff has ever been published in a peer reviewed atmospheric science or climate journal. He challenges them to do just that.

Read Fishel's post here: PUT UP OR SHUT UP

I agree. If climate deniers have a mechanism that explains how increased CO2 and methane don't heat the Earth, and supply a rigorous proof that Arrhenius was wrong, then let's see it. Get it published.
Of course, you agree! I've yet to see you share an original thought. All you do is Google a meme that supports your notions (misguided as they may be) and then you quickly post it here as if you've had a life-changing epiphany.

YOU had to quickly find something, ANYTHING to counter this:
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Mann knows he faked the data. Producing it in discovery will expose his scam, so he took the hit on losing the lawsuit he himself filed against Dr. Tim Ball and will have to reimburse Dr. Ball for all legal costs and expenses Ball incurred defending himself against Mann's allegations.

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"The Supreme Court of British Columbia dismisses Dr Michael Mann’s defamation lawsuit versus Canadian skeptic climatologist, Dr Tim Ball. Full legal costs are awarded to Dr Ball, the defendant in the case."
Breaking News: Dr Tim Ball Defeats Michael Mann’s Climate Lawsuit
Post #2 shredded you and your fool in a single sentence.

SO SAD YOU
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Ha! Sounds like he is describing some of the posters here who keep posting claims that are worse than freshman level physics; full of errors and just BS. The stuff they post is laughable it is so bad. But they always claim that because of their "discovery" AGW is a hoax. I agree with Fishel - publish it or shut up.

Really, the climate change debate is way past the debate on whether it is real and has moved on to what we do about it.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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YOU had to quickly find something, ANYTHING to counter this:
Not at all. Mann's lawsuit has nothing to do with the science of climate change, which has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (to 5-sigma statistical significance) is caused by man's use of fossil fuels.

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Post #2 shredded you and your fool in a single sentence.
Not at all. No one denies that natural climate change is continuing today; it is a much smaller and much slower process than man-made climate change. Manmade CC is totally swamping the natural signal.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:22 PM
 
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Not at all. Mann's lawsuit has nothing to do with the science of climate change, which has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (to 5-sigma statistical significance) is caused by man's use of fossil fuels.



Not at all. No one denies that natural climate change is continuing today; it is a much smaller and much slower process than man-made climate change. Manmade CC is totally swamping the natural signal.
How do you know how fast or slow the climate changes? How does anyone know other than through flawed theory?
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: New York
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Nobody can teach common sense. I gave you a little of my time out of compassion. Have a great day, try not to worry about the world ending so much.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:26 PM
 
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Of course, you agree! I've yet to see you share an original thought. All you do is Google a meme that supports your notions (misguided as they may be) and then you quickly post it here as if you've had a life-changing epiphany.

YOU had to quickly find something, ANYTHING to counter this:


Post #2 shredded you and your fool in a single sentence.

SO SAD YOU
Relying too heavily on 'experts' and not enough on intuition and emotion will only result in leaving you helpless, OP just as you felt on election night 2016. Science is heavily flawed because scientists are humans with self-interest like all people.

Which other science should we follow? Which way should we lean on Round-up? On eggs and butter? On GMOs?
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:31 PM
 
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If you want to complain about man made global warming/climate change - go to China and India - as they are the world's worst offenders. Nobody seems to want to hold them accountable, but seek to charge carbon taxes as a solution - which is like a toll road. The rich have no problem paying it, so their behavior remains unchanged, while the poor and middle class would have to alter their lives to save money.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:37 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Of course, you agree! I've yet to see you share an original thought. All you do is Google a meme that supports your notions (misguided as they may be) and then you quickly post it here as if you've had a life-changing epiphany.

YOU had to quickly find something, ANYTHING to counter this:


Post #2 shredded you and your fool in a single sentence.

SO SAD YOU
The thread you refer to is completely bogus. All it amounts to is a pack of outright lies made on a climate denial site without a single shred of evidence to back their claims up.
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