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The earth's climate has been changing for 4+ billion years, nearly all without human influence. Pseudo-science proclaiming climate change is man-made won't convince any intelligent being.
Any child with a terrarium can prove the above claim demonstrably false. Carbon dioxide is a green house gas. That is a fact that only idiots argue against. Adding CO2 to the atmosphere increases greenhouse effect. More old science established in the 1880s. Again only idiots disagree with this. Human activities release previously sequestered carbon dioxide more basic science.
You can’t disprove any of that so you pretend it’s “pseudo science”.
Btw, single called organisms changed the composition of the atmosphere 2.1 billion years ago. Pretending humans can’t do the same is literally ignorance.
Tell that fool nobody denies that the climate changes.
As Bugs would say, what a maroon.
Ah, let me give you a hint here. We are not talking about temporary, seasonal or yearly changes, we are talking about permanent, damaging, destructive, long term changes here.
Of course the "climate changes", we are talking about a whole nuther issue here.
We are not coming out of an Ice Age and we won't be for another 23 Million years at least.
46 Million years ago every square inch of Earth was triple-canopy tropical rain forest with an average global temperature of 94°F. That includes Alaska/Canada, Scandinavia and Siberia.
As the Antarctic Plate moving on a north-east trajectory enters the Antarctic Circle, the climate starts to become cooler and drier, and the rain forests start dying off.
By 26 Million years ago, Antarctica is fully in the Antarctic Circle and the good news is its north-easterly movement pushed the South American Plates northward to collide with the North American Plate and create the Panamanian Isthmus.
Why is that good news? Because that cut off the ocean currents that used to flow between North America and South America. That prevented a full-on Snowball Earth.
As a result, this Ice Age is punctuated by periodic warming.
Initially, Glacial Periods lasted ~40,000 years and Inter-Glacial Periods about 12,000-15,000 years.
Then, 600,000 years ago, you have the Mid-Pleistocene Event --and no one is sure exactly what happened --- and Glacial Periods are suddenly lasting 80,000 years to 120,000 years and Inter-Glacial Periods as long as 30,000 years.
It's not unusual to have warming and cooling trends within an Inter-Glacial Period.
For example, one Glacial Period ended and it warmed, then cooled, then warmed, then cooled, then warmed again and then it was right back to the regularly scheduled full-on Glacial Period.
This Inter-Glacial Period has had warming and cooling trends, too.
In fact, average global temperatures were much higher than now and the British Isles were infested with mosquitoes.
For centuries, people in the British Isles suffered from Malaria, which really sucks.
Then you have the mini-Ice Age or Little Ice Age whatever you want to call it and it killed off all the mosquitoes in the British Isles, so everyone is doing the Happy Dance.
Average global temperatures could easily warm up like they were some centuries ago and the British Isles could be infested with mosquitoes again, but now we know how to control mosquitoes and the spread of Malaria and we have effective drugs for Malaria.
WOW ! Would you mind sharing where you get your information. The earth goes through warming & cooling periods approximately every 100,000 yrs. There is really nothing to worry about.
Greg Fishel, respected meteorologist, wrote a rant of Facebook criticizing people who question the science behind climate change, telling them to “put up or shut up.” He says climate deniers are self-appointed "experts" who just post junk on the internet and none of their stuff has ever been published in a peer reviewed atmospheric science or climate journal. He challenges them to do just that.
I agree. If climate deniers have a mechanism that explains how increased CO2 and methane don't heat the Earth, and supply a rigorous proof that Arrhenius was wrong, then let's see it. Get it published.
No serious person denies “climate change” we just don’t want to be taxed/regulated for something we have no control over.
Most importantly though, it is extremely difficult to get published if your work is seen to be against the academic liberal narrative. It’s true. We see this come up with race as biology articles. It’s nearly impossible to get pudlished, whereas if you wrote on race being a social construct your paper goes right to the front of the line. Same story with academic tenure. Liberals are bullies. 1984 is upon us.
WOW ! Would you mind sharing where you get your information. The earth goes through warming & cooling periods approximately every 100,000 yrs. There is really nothing to worry about.
Mircea isn't worried, just the opposite.
All the pro-AGWs in here are doing their measure off thing. She was simply trying to drop some knowledge.
There's no middle ground. The world is going to end unless we spend all of our money to fix it.
They don't have a clue how to solve something that is unsolvable because there's nothing to solve. But, they know they have to do something and forcing everyone to bend to their will is exactly what these morons seem to need. That will make them feel all warm and fuzzy and relieve them of their apocalyptic nightmares they're having every night.
THAT is their solution. Think about it for a minute.
...we're talking about 57/10,000th of a degree a year
0.8 degree in 140 years
AOC and her million starry-eyed hormone-raging addled teenage boys following her say "the world will come to an end in 10 years" which would be at about .05 degrees warmer.
I'd like to know what's wrong with warmer temps. Plants love Co2 and we've had more than 20 years of record after record crops. More food, less freezing - a win-win!
If you get a little too warm then go jump in the pool and turn on the AC which is now running on clean NG generated electricity!!! Another win-win!
If people are so worried about petroleum-based energy destroying our planet, then progress forward and get behind next-generation nuclear energy. It's safe and doesn't have a 1/20th of the waste that first-generation plants did. Stop regressing and trying to turn us into the Flintstones.
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AOC and her million starry-eyed hormone-raging addled teenage boys following her say "the world will come to an end in 10 years" which would be at about .05 degrees warmer.
I'd like to know what's wrong with warmer temps. Plants love Co2 and we've had more than 20 years of record after record crops. More food, less freezing - a win-win!
If you get a little too warm then go jump in the pool and turn on the AC which is now running on clean NG generated electricity!!! Another win-win!
If people are so worried about petroleum-based energy destroying our planet, then progress forward and get behind next-generation nuclear energy. It's safe and doesn't have a 1/20th of the waste that first-generation plants did. Stop regressing and trying to turn us into the Flintstones.
That sounds like a deflection from science, where are we on “next generation “ nuclear energy. Obviously you just don’t want to admit that we need to change our bad habits, we can continue down the path and ignore the overwhelming evidence.
Originally Posted by Originalist Originally Posted by PedroMartinez When you apply the actual data to the models, they don't match what actually occurs which is why they "adjust" the data.
Fake science is fake science.
The waste of time is constantly having to listen to people telling us how the world is coming to a tipping point and if we don't do something we'll all die. Being told the "science is settled" when science by definition can never be settled. When we ask what the solutions are there's never an answer. Dead silence or a complete deflection to some canned talking point.
Look on the first page 3rd post.
Is the climate changing? YES!
Does man have something to do with it? Probably
The so-called Peer-Reviewed science can't tell us exactly how much we are to be blamed yet can tell us that we are? It's a Ponzi scheme.
Is man the primary cause, most certainly not. What is? The damn Sun is the 900lb gorilla when it comes to fire and ice. Please read the Columbia University study which took 3 years, went back 50 million years with soil cores 1500' deep.
Back to the $1M question: What, exactly, can we do to change global temperatures? Nothing! But that's using logic and common sense. In the meantime you want 3B people to send their wealth to the despots who rule the other 5B people living in abject poverty because of those tyrants!!
While you pat yourselves on the backs and tout your moral superiority in the name of a corrupted meme, the rest of us only see a bunch of fools that haven't a clue and couldn't care less about being played by corrupted scientists who only care about the billions they will make off their BS! THAT will fix everything and if it doesn't at least you blowhards will feel all warm and fuzzy even as the world spirals into the same abject poverty as the 3rd world. YAY for equality!
(someone else chimed in with some stupid nonsense)
OH, here you go again. It's a bogus site!!!
All they did was republish the study by The Earth Institute at Columbia University - zero bogus and plenty for you to drool over.
If we REALLY wanted to start solving the warming problem the first thing we would do is stop pouring black asphalt over everything. The streets and dark roofs are causing urban areas to be 7-12 degrees warmer than they should be.
There ya go, that was hard, I'm beat. Time for a nap.
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Originally Posted by LLCNYC
You. I like you.
Thanks! I am an easy guy to like. I simply have little patience these days for people who are wasting their precious lives worrying about things they can't change.
I'm still waiting on the chicken herd to cluck out a cohesive response to my question.
How will money cool the planet?
Why are the biggest offenders with their carbon footprints (25x the average American, 500x the average African) the ones wagging their fingers at us?
Why are these dolts out there and in here refusing to admit that the US had cut carbon emissions by more than any other first world country on the planet? We're doing it because we care, not because those morons are forcing us to.
Again, I have little patience for idiots who are unable to use their God-given critical thinking skills. They'd argue that 1+1=1 if a scientist said he had the evidence that it does. It's mind-numbing and exhaustive.
You, I Like You Too.
Time for another nap as I can only take a small dose of this joint at a time.
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