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Old Yesterday, 07:49 PM
 
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When a beloved pet is suffering from very ill health or nearing end of quality life, we consider it an ultimate act of compassion to end their lives. And obviously the pets are not choosing to voluntarily end their lives.

Yet, some of these same people then consider it heresy or a moral abomination to give that same consideration to humans; the ones that want to end their lives are suffering terrible pain and zero quality of life in doing basic human functions.

Nine U.S. states allowing "aid in dying." And for those who think it's a slippery slope, the guidelines in the U.S. are not like some in other countries where the rules are looser. Two doctors have to verify that the patient has a terminal illness or is suffering, so it's not like people are ending their lives on a whim or because of some false reason.

This is the story of one such person.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/face...050340413.html

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The day he picked to die, Robert Fuller had the party of a lifetime.

In the morning, he dressed in a blue Hawaiian shirt and married his partner while sitting on a couch in their senior housing apartment. He then took the elevator down three floors to the building's common room, decorated with balloons and flowers.

With an elaborately carved walking stick, he shuffled around to greet dozens of well-wishers and friends from across the decades, fellow church parishioners and social-work volunteers. The crowd spilled into a sunny courtyard on a beautiful spring day.

A gospel choir sang. A violinist and soprano performed "Ave Maria." A Seattle poet recited an original piece imagining Fuller as a tree, with birds perched on his thoughts.

And when the time came, "Uncle Bob" banged his walking stick on the ceiling to command attention.
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Old Yesterday, 07:54 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It has a name. Suicide.
Practiced by 1000's of terminal & elderly Americans yearly
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Old Yesterday, 07:59 PM
 
Location: SGV
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Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy View Post
When a beloved pet is suffering from very ill health or nearing end of quality life, we consider it an ultimate act of compassion to end their lives. And obviously the pets are not choosing to voluntarily end their lives.

Yet, some of these same people then consider it heresy or a moral abomination to give that same consideration to humans; the ones that want to end their lives are suffering terrible pain and zero quality of life in doing basic human functions.

Nine U.S. states allowing "aid in dying." And for those who think it's a slippery slope, the guidelines in the U.S. are not like some in other countries where the rules are looser. Two doctors have to verify that the patient has a terminal illness or is suffering, so it's not like people are ending their lives on a whim or because of some false reason.

This is the story of one such person.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/face...050340413.html
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I own my life. I'll end it over whatever I damn well please.

Tax or cage my corpse, statists.
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Old Yesterday, 08:17 PM
 
Location: SGV
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I just read the entire story. Putting the nonsensical politics aside what a heartwarming account that was. I teared up.

Freedom is so pure and beautiful and natural. I can't understand why so many, mostly everyone actually, fight it and do so at their own peril and the peril of their loved ones.
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Old Yesterday, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Bran's tree
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Why should people need a reason?

Do we not own our bodies? If someone wants euthanasia and finds someone willing to perform comfortable euthanasia on then, should that not be the right of two consenting adults?
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Old Yesterday, 08:27 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Why should people need a reason?

Do we not own our bodies? If someone wants euthanasia and finds someone willing to perform comfortable euthanasia on then, should that not be the right of two consenting adults?
Well, one is suicide and the other homicide. It becomes a problem in the adjudication.
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Old Yesterday, 08:35 PM
 
Location: SGV
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Well, one is suicide and the other homicide. It becomes a problem in the adjudication.
There are no homicides in natural law. Your statism is showing, per usual.
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Old Yesterday, 08:37 PM
 
Location: SGV
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Why should people need a reason?

Do we not own our bodies? If someone wants euthanasia and finds someone willing to perform comfortable euthanasia on then, should that not be the right of two consenting adults?
Yep. You got it.

Private resolution councils and private insurers would be able to handle such matters with ease. If 3rd parties not privy to the proceedings disagree with the rulings they can put market pressure on the private industries if they so desire.

Freedom requires work folks. The laziness must end.
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Old Yesterday, 08:50 PM
 
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It's called euthanasia, and we basically have it every state with hospice. When you agree to Living Wills, DNR and final directives etc, you are basically agree to be euthanize when you agree to hospice or palliative care.

They just word it or make you think it's "comfort care" and agreeing to medicine to "relieve pain" and "that may shorten your life" (to whatever length the hospice finds economically best for them). Hospice can and does, place patients into medical induced comas, overdose patients with morphine and other drugs and withholds food and water. causing death and the person to be gone before their time. The death certificate might say died of lung cancer or heart disease, but actually it was death by morphine or some other drug combo overdose. I don't care what anyone says we are euthanizing the elderly in this country already.
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Old Yesterday, 09:29 PM
 
Location: SGV
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It's called euthanasia, and we basically have it every state with hospice. When you agree to Living Wills, DNR and final directives etc, you are basically agree to be euthanize when you agree to hospice or palliative care.

They just word it or make you think it's "comfort care" and agreeing to medicine to "relieve pain" and "that may shorten your life" (to whatever length the hospice finds economically best for them). Hospice can and does, place patients into medical induced comas, overdose patients with morphine and other drugs and withholds food and water. causing death and the person to be gone before their time. The death certificate might say died of lung cancer or heart disease, but actually it was death by morphine or some other drug combo overdose. I don't care what anyone says we are euthanizing the elderly in this country already.
To a certain extent...yes. That's how my father went out after a bout of about 6 billion concurrent ailments. He's in the comorbidity HOF as an eternal member.

But there are laws and regulations governing such actions and there should be zero. Zilch. Nada.
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