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Old Today, 07:18 AM
 
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No. Pharma rep tells doctors that when people are in pain they won't get addicted to opioids. So the doctor prescribed them willy nilly to people in pain. But when the pain ends, the patient discovers that he is in fact hooked on the opioid at that point. That is the lie that was pushed by pharma. And they should pay for it.
What state do you live in that doesn't require doctors to go to an accredited medical school?

It seems like your state failed you by allowing people with no basic knowledge to be licensed as doctors.
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Old Today, 07:21 AM
 
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Tell you what....go to the oral surgeon and have half the upper part of the roof of your mouth cut off, then try to get some sleep after taking a couple of aspirins....get back to me.
The judge has pretty much said there is no place in society for such "medications".

If we can't trust licensed doctors to not prescribe hundreds of opoid pills to someone with a broken arm or a licensed pharmacist for filling a prescription for hundreds of opoid pills to a single patient, it's pretty clear that such substances have no place in our lives.
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Old Today, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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What state do you live in that doesn't require doctors to go to an accredited medical school?

It seems like your state failed you by allowing people with no basic knowledge to be licensed as doctors.
This happened all across the US. You know that of course but you want to put the blame anywhere but the pharmaceutical companies apparently. In a perfect world everybody would be responsible for his own decisions but we all know that a good fraction of the public cannot handle that responsibility and they end up in trouble and society has to bail them out. Like with opioids. A lot of our laws are there for the lowest common denominator. If nobody abused drugs we wouldn't need any drug laws at all.
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Old Today, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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This is just like the cigarette lawsuits from decades ago. The govt permits and regulates an industry of a potentially dangerous substance. People use and sometimes abuse it. Many die. So govt sees it as a chance to rake in a big pile of cash, so they sue the ones with the most money, the manufacturers.

The greed of govt and govt officials knows no limit. And now, millions will suffer in pain because of it.
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Old Today, 07:40 AM
 
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This happened all across the US. You know that of course but you want to put the blame anywhere but the pharmaceutical companies apparently. In a perfect world everybody would be responsible for his own decisions but we all know that a good fraction of the public cannot handle that responsibility and they end up in trouble and society has to bail them out. Like with opioids. A lot of our laws are there for the lowest common denominator. If nobody abused drugs we wouldn't need any drug laws at all.
2 questions:

1. Can anyone besides a licensed doctor prescribe opiods?

2. Are doctors taught about opiod addiction in medical school?
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Old Today, 07:44 AM
 
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Legalized Marijuana is a far far better proposition for those in pain.
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Old Today, 07:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This is just like the cigarette lawsuits from decades ago. The govt permits and regulates an industry of a potentially dangerous substance. People use and sometimes abuse it. Many die. So govt sees it as a chance to rake in a big pile of cash, so they sue the ones with the most money, the manufacturers.

The greed of govt and govt officials knows no limit. And now, millions will suffer in pain because of it.
Its a lot like back door communism. The government cant legally take money from a successful company or take it over. So it makes up some excuse to sue it.
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Old Today, 07:46 AM
 
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No. Pharma rep tells doctors that when people are in pain they won't get addicted to opioids. So the doctor prescribed them willy nilly to people in pain. But when the pain ends, the patient discovers that he is in fact hooked on the opioid at that point. That is the lie that was pushed by pharma. And they should pay for it.
Dude, if a doctor doesn't know opiates are addictive he shouldn't be a doctor. It's that simple.
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Old Today, 07:47 AM
 
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This is just like the cigarette lawsuits from decades ago. The govt permits and regulates an industry of a potentially dangerous substance. People use and sometimes abuse it. Many die. So govt sees it as a chance to rake in a big pile of cash, so they sue the ones with the most money, the manufacturers.

The greed of govt and govt officials knows no limit. And now, millions will suffer in pain because of it.
The government only allows licensed doctors to prescribe most medications to ensure exceptionally trained professionals with knowledge of the dangers and benefits of them can determine who gets them.

The government then says only licensed pharmacists are allowed to fill doctors' prescriptions in order to have a second line of defense of keeping potentially dangerous medications in check.

Now the government says it's not the responsibility of doctors or pharmacists who prescribe legal government approved medications but the company that makes the product the government gave them permission to make.
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Old Today, 07:48 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Legalized Marijuana is a far far better proposition for those in pain.
Lol. Replace a pain medication with a drug that is widely abused, and just makes you high. Your doctor can already prescribe you legal cannabniods if you need them.
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