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Old Yesterday, 10:38 AM
 
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Ban them.

If people who are in extreme pain won't be able to get relief, tough ****.
What if it was you?
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Old Yesterday, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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More likely there's an effort underfoot to minimize prescriptions of highly-addictive opiates in America. Good. That effort is badly needed; it's pure evil what was done by pharmaceutical companies to push those drugs. 47,000 Americans died from opiate overdose in 2017.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abus...verdose-crisis
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Old Yesterday, 10:53 AM
 
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Why should it be overturned, look at the distribution and the number of deaths from addiction in many of these states and its hard to fathom that these companies and distributors were after anything but profits. Some cities in WV had enough opioids shipped so that the numbers worked out to a few hundred pills for each resident.
Seriously? If they were after the BIG profits, they sure are not acting like it! Havent you read how difficult it is to even obtain opiate meds today?


Generally, if a big and powerful industry wants to make profits off something...they usually make it as easy to get as possible.
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Old Yesterday, 10:56 AM
 
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Neither did the tobacco companies directly hand out cigarettes to anyone. Look at what happened to them?
Tobacco industry did the same exact thing (they lied about how addictive and dangerous cigarettes were at one time, some doctors even stated that certain brands were healthier than others), and yet today, cigarettes are still being sold, anyone over 18 can buy as many as they like, 24/7...?


Heck, its 2019 and cigarettes are still sold at drug stores!! LOL
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Old Yesterday, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I feel sorry for the folks who are going to experience pain, you know like those in car accidents and stuff.
They should smoke a joint. Sooner or later marijuana is going to be legal to smoke everywhere you can legally smoke tobacco.
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Old Yesterday, 10:59 AM
 
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More likely there's an effort underfoot to minimize prescriptions of highly-addictive opiates in America. Good. That effort is badly needed; it's pure evil what was done by pharmaceutical companies to push those drugs. 47,000 Americans died from opiate overdose in 2017.

https://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abus...verdose-crisis
NO...its the DEA and the drug cartels that are behind this.


Why dont you take a look at heroin related overdoses and deaths after the big crackdown on opioids? You may be surprised...reducing the availability of opioid pills, paved the way for cartel supplied heroin, pharma was direct competition, the DEA ensured the cartels would come out on top though.
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Old Yesterday, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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We need to ban alcohol as well.

Alcohol producers advertise it as something people can consume responsibly; however, it is a FACT alcohol is highly addictive. It is a FACT servers can't be trusted to not over-serve. It is a FACT people can't be trusted not to over consume.

People die everyday from alcoholism.

Innocent people and children die all the time at the hands of alcoholics.

If opiod producers should be responsible for addiction and deaths, alcohol producers should be just as liable.

But, if we want to save lives and reduce addiction, the responsible thing to do is just ban it.

If you support holding drug companies responsible, you should also hold alcohol companies responsible. The bottom line is if people can't be counted on to do the right thing, we should remove the problem itself.

Ban opiods. Ban alcohol.
Wow, if serious, the illegal, underground drug dealers love you and will quite strongly back you.. They need new stuff to add to their inventories, since they're losing marijuana to legality.
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Old Yesterday, 11:08 AM
 
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The judge has pretty much said there is no place in society for such "medications".

If we can't trust licensed doctors to not prescribe hundreds of opoid pills to someone with a broken arm or a licensed pharmacist for filling a prescription for hundreds of opoid pills to a single patient, it's pretty clear that such substances have no place in our lives.
Id rather trust a doctor instead of judge!


Besides that, patients are protected under privacy laws, (doctor patient privacy-HIPA), basically its a violation of HIPA for ANYONE else to know what meds you are being given. My best friend is a corporate attorney, he says this could be a class action suit against the DEA, I never gave them permission to know what meds I was taking, Im betting neither did lots of other people.
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Old Yesterday, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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NO...its the DEA and the drug cartels that are behind this.

Why dont you take a look at heroin related overdoses and deaths after the big crackdown on opioids? You may be surprised...reducing the availability of opioid pills, paved the way for cartel supplied heroin, pharma was direct competition, the DEA ensured the cartels would come out on top though.
Nope. That's the effect; you need to look at the root cause.
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Old Yesterday, 11:17 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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NO...its the DEA and the drug cartels that are behind this.


Why dont you take a look at heroin related overdoses and deaths after the big crackdown on opioids? You may be surprised...reducing the availability of opioid pills, paved the way for cartel supplied heroin, pharma was direct competition, the DEA ensured the cartels would come out on top though.
I donít know about the DEA but youíre right about heroin. If the drug addicts canít get narcs from pills theyíll go to heroin. None of this has anything to do with pharmaceutical companies. Opioid addicts will get their fix from whatever is available.
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