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Old Yesterday, 09:26 AM
 
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I carefully prepared my federal income taxes for 2018 and received an IRS notice with a small check stating that I overpaid.



Something just did not look right so I downloaded from the IRS a transcript showing line-by-line how my taxes were calculated by the IRS. I found several errors, one of which was that one of my estimated tax payments was not included in the IRS calculation. So a month ago I wrote a letter with documentation demonstrating the IRS errors and asked for a re-calculation. No reply to date.


I noticed several things. The IRS uses a computer program to calculate personal income taxes. I tried to use one but stopped when my estimated taxes jumped from $600 to $600,000. In past years I have used others but without success. Bait and switch. You are requested to spend more and more money for a "better" program with no guaranty that the better program will work.



All things being equal, would it make more sense for both the tax payer and the IRS to use the same computer program application (i.e. the one the IRS uses)? Does the taxpayer have to spend money on an expensive tax attorney or accountant/CPA to do his/her taxes?


Besides just doing the math correctly as one total builds on another (so it would be nice to have a computer), I have found the instructions either do not say or mislead the taxpayer. Meaning the IRS is requiring one thing, but the taxpayer is not made the wiser.



I could go on, but the slow walk is what kills the taxpayer. Delay, delay, delay, until you write to your congressman as if that will help.
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Old Yesterday, 09:32 AM
 
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The likes of TurboTax throw around a bunch of lobbying money to prevent that from happening.

After Turbotax and HR Block lobbying IRS could be banned from offering free tax filing app
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Old Yesterday, 09:33 AM
 
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Old Yesterday, 09:38 AM
 
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The likes of TurboTax throw a bunch of lobbying money to prevent that from happening.

After Turbotax and HR Block lobbying IRS could be banned from offering free tax filing app
Disgusting.

Especially since HR Block completely botched my taxes because they don't know what they're doing.
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Old Yesterday, 09:43 AM
 
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Disgusting.

Especially since HR Block completely botched my taxes because they don't know what they're doing.
And they have the nerve to bundle it in something called the “Taxpayer First Act”. Already passed the House, has bi-partisan support.
https://www.propublica.org/article/c...ampaign=buffer
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Old Yesterday, 10:06 AM
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Disgusting.

Especially since HR Block completely botched my taxes because they don't know what they're doing.
It is disgusting. I will say that I have loved HR Block, but I do not use online tax filing apps and, instead, have to go into the office and have them done that way. I've found that the apps (at least for TurboTax) don't have a way for me to not pay state income taxes due to my military status.
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Old Yesterday, 10:16 AM
 
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It is disgusting. I will say that I have loved HR Block, but I do not use online tax filing apps and, instead, have to go into the office and have them done that way. I've found that the apps (at least for TurboTax) don't have a way for me to not pay state income taxes due to my military status.
Last time I used TurboTax state was a separate purchase. My father managed to use it while in a state with state taxes but maintaining permanent residency in Florida no problem.

Also aren't the in house HR Block folks just using the same program and they just hired someone off the street to fill it out for you?
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Old Yesterday, 10:22 AM
 
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You skipped a step Frank.

After they determine that you cheated them and before you go to prison you have to spend all your money on an attorney to defend yourself in one of their kangaroo courts.
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Old Yesterday, 10:29 AM
 
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I was told by a co-worker -- I don't know whether or not it's true -- the the IRS already knows how much in taxes you should have paid even before they receive your completed 1040 (or whatever).

IF that is true, then why don't they just send a statement with the amount one owes or is owed, with the option of challenging it if you think it's wrong? Would save a heck of a lot of time and money.

(Yeah, I know, accounting and tax firms would have a fit.)

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Old Yesterday, 10:34 AM
 
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I was told -- I don't know whether or not it's true -- the the IRS already knows how much in taxes you should have paid even before they receive your completed 1040 (or whatever).

IF that is true, then why don't they just send a statement with the amount one owes or is owed, with the option of challenging it if you think it's wrong. Would save a heck of a lot of time and money.

(Yeah, I know, accounting and tax firms would have a fit.)
How could they possibly know if you deduct things like business expenses, charitable contributions or any number of things they have no way of knowing? To claim they do makes no sense.
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