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Now I am a lifelong democrat but I will be the first to admit they can be frustrating as all hell and I have also voted for republicans in the past, granted they are what the more hardcore republicans would call "rinos" but whatever
I have felt as far as democrats go, that instead of focusing on this that are important and can get people to their side like fighting climate change, the ever shrinking middle class and the fact we have a president who not only governs by tweet but has tweeted lies, misspelled words and on occasion made-up words, or just really really bad spelling error. Not to mention he seems to waffle pretty easily...See China Tariffs.
But in spite of all that the democrats manage to shift the focus from good issues they can build on to issues like who uses what bathroom, or did someone laugh at or tell an "inappropriate" joke 5, 10, 20 even 30 years ago. or to put it simply the woke B.S. flavor of the week.
What I don't get about Trump is it about him that you can't even disagree even the slightest, farm foreclosures are up 13% in part due to the tariff war and you stand by him, there have been more coal plants that have shut down under his watch then under obama, his wife took pictures that was half a step away from softcore lesbian porn (remember when there was an uproar over Michelle showing her bare shoulders, I do not care what you think of her looks but you can't condemn bare shoulders but be silent about some of melania's pics)
Now I am not trying to convince you to vote democrat, like I said this is for the hardcore supporters so its a waste of my breath but seriously, you guys seem afraid to disagree, or even say he should do xyz different. What is it about him that makes you worship him and view him as infallible.
Yes I did support Obama but I thought he could've handled the roll out to Obamacare better, he should've called out mcconnnel for not doing anything about Russian interference but he tried to be the nice guy...he might of been president but you are not elevated to god when you are elected, you are allowed to make mistakes.
I am seriously/not seriously, me and a co-worker were joking today. As It turns out Today 8/28 marks 5 years since rep Pete King (R-NY) and fox news and other conservatives had a melt down over Obama's tan suit...(I didn't like the suit either but its not a national security emergency), there were melt downs over Dijon friggin mustard on a hamburger, we were joking that if Trump did that would his supporters stop supporting him?
Now I am a lifelong democrat but I will be the first to admit they can be frustrating as all hell and I have also voted for republicans in the past, granted they are what the more hardcore republicans would call "rinos" but whatever
I have felt as far as democrats go, that instead of focusing on this that are important and can get people to their side like fighting climate change, the ever shrinking middle class and the fact we have a president who not only governs by tweet but has tweeted lies, misspelled words and on occasion made-up words, or just really really bad spelling error. Not to mention he seems to waffle pretty easily...See China Tariffs.
But in spite of all that the democrats manage to shift the focus from good issues they can build on to issues like who uses what bathroom, or did someone laugh at or tell an "inappropriate" joke 5, 10, 20 even 30 years ago. or to put it simply the woke B.S. flavor of the week.
What I don't get about Trump is it about him that you can't even disagree even the slightest, farm foreclosures are up 13% in part due to the tariff war and you stand by him, there have been more coal plants that have shut down under his watch then under obama, his wife took pictures that was half a step away from softcore lesbian porn (remember when there was an uproar over Michelle showing her bare shoulders, I do not care what you think of her looks but you can't condemn bare shoulders but be silent about some of melania's pics)
Now I am not trying to convince you to vote democrat, like I said this is for the hardcore supporters so its a waste of my breath but seriously, you guys seem afraid to disagree, or even say he should do xyz different. What is it about him that makes you worship him and view him as infallible.
Yes I did support Obama but I thought he could've handled the roll out to Obamacare better, he should've called out mcconnnel for not doing anything about Russian interference but he tried to be the nice guy...he might of been president but you are not elevated to god when you are elected, you are allowed to make mistakes.
I am seriously/not seriously, me and a co-worker were joking today. As It turns out Today 8/28 marks 5 years since rep Pete King (R-NY) and fox news and other conservatives had a melt down over Obama's tan suit...(I didn't like the suit either but its not a national security emergency), there were melt downs over Dijon friggin mustard on a hamburger, we were joking that if Trump did that would his supporters stop supporting him?
I didn't care about Obama's suit, I didn't care about Michelle's bare shoulders, I didn't vote for Melania Trump and I don't care what kind of pictures she took.
Donald Trump was and still is a better choice for President than Hillary Clinton ever could be, by far. That's the only thing that matters. He prevented the old hag from getting her turn and that's why I voted for him. He's done and said a lot of inappropriate things but I don't care. He's insulted people, made mistakes and said things I would never say... but I don't care. Hillary isn't President and Trump is making a huge effort to fix serious problems that our country has avoided and ignored for decades. I wouldn't call myself a hardcore Trump supporter, I would support anyone who's work on the same issues he's tackling now.
Let’s see if I can hit all the points here....that’s a lot to read for a low iq deplorable such as myself.
Farm foreclosures: we are obviously growing too much food in this country. We should only grow enough for our own needs. Farming exports are a minimal part of the US economy. So, I’m fine with this.
Coal Power Plants: nope, I don’t really care about those either. I have yet to notice any increase on my electric bill and that’s really all I care about. If people are losing jobs in dying mining towns, they need to develop a new skill set and move. This country is hungry for people who can pass a drug test and work in a skilled trade.
Melania: she’s hot, I’d smash it 5 days a week and I have no problem with porn. Ivanka ain’t bad either.
I didn't care about Obama's suit, I didn't care about Michelle's bare shoulders, I didn't vote for Melania Trump and I don't care what kind of pictures she took.
Donald Trump was and still is a better choice for President than Hillary Clinton ever could be, by far. That's the only thing that matters. He prevented the old hag from getting her turn and that's why I voted for him. He's done and said a lot of inappropriate things but I don't care. He's insulted people, made mistakes and said things I would never say... but I don't care. Hillary isn't President and Trump is making a huge effort to fix serious problems that our country has avoided and ignored for decades. I wouldn't call myself a hardcore Trump supporter, I would support anyone who's work on the same issues he's tackling now.
Now that Hillary is out of the picture you should care.
We are a nation of rebels who should always hold our leaders to high standards. When you vote for the lesser of two evils you have to then hold that evil accountable.
I was tired of politicians saying they'd stand up to China, but who took no concrete action against the country and its abuses (currency manipulation, unchecked tariffs on American goods that were not reciprocated, etc.).
We understand that there are going to be certain hardships faced by farmers and others in this tariff fight, but its about the end goal that matters, which is hopefully a trade deal that is fair and benefits the American workers more than previous trade with China has done.
On the whole, though, under President Trump, taxes have been cut for the overwhelming majority of Americans, immigration laws are being enforced and a border wall is going up, unemployment is at historic lows generally and all time lows for blacks and Hispanics, constitutional conservatives are being appointed to the federal judiciary, criminal justice reform was signed into law that disproportionately benefits blacks and Latinos locked up for nonviolent offenses that are the result of legislation signed into law by Bill Clinton and others, etc.
That is why I support President Trump.
To touch on one of your other comments in particular, what in the hell was Mitch McConnell supposed to do about Russian interference? Obama was PRESIDENT and equipped to handle that. He didn't need Mitch McConnell to do a damn thing
Now I am a lifelong democrat but I will be the first to admit they can be frustrating as all hell and I have also voted for republicans in the past, granted they are what the more hardcore republicans would call "rinos" but whatever
I have felt as far as democrats go, that instead of focusing on this that are important and can get people to their side like fighting climate change, the ever shrinking middle class and the fact we have a president who not only governs by tweet but has tweeted lies, misspelled words and on occasion made-up words, or just really really bad spelling error.
%95 lost me with the bold. Those are the things that concern you
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Originally Posted by dannyboy84
What is it about him that makes you worship him and view him as infallible.
There is the other 5%. Worship, infallible, really?
Who has said that? Is that what you mean by hardcore? I know a lot of Trump supporters but if that is the definition of hard core I dont know any.
Now I am a lifelong democrat but I will be the first to admit they can be frustrating as all hell and I have also voted for republicans in the past, granted they are what the more hardcore republicans would call "rinos" but whatever
I have felt as far as democrats go, that instead of focusing on this that are important and can get people to their side like fighting climate change, the ever shrinking middle class and the fact we have a president who not only governs by tweet but has tweeted lies, misspelled words and on occasion made-up words, or just really really bad spelling error. Not to mention he seems to waffle pretty easily...See China Tariffs.
But in spite of all that the democrats manage to shift the focus from good issues they can build on to issues like who uses what bathroom, or did someone laugh at or tell an "inappropriate" joke 5, 10, 20 even 30 years ago. or to put it simply the woke B.S. flavor of the week.
What I don't get about Trump is it about him that you can't even disagree even the slightest, farm foreclosures are up 13% in part due to the tariff war and you stand by him, there have been more coal plants that have shut down under his watch then under obama, his wife took pictures that was half a step away from softcore lesbian porn (remember when there was an uproar over Michelle showing her bare shoulders, I do not care what you think of her looks but you can't condemn bare shoulders but be silent about some of melania's pics)
Now I am not trying to convince you to vote democrat, like I said this is for the hardcore supporters so its a waste of my breath but seriously, you guys seem afraid to disagree, or even say he should do xyz different. What is it about him that makes you worship him and view him as infallible.
Yes I did support Obama but I thought he could've handled the roll out to Obamacare better, he should've called out mcconnnel for not doing anything about Russian interference but he tried to be the nice guy...he might of been president but you are not elevated to god when you are elected, you are allowed to make mistakes.
I am seriously/not seriously, me and a co-worker were joking today. As It turns out Today 8/28 marks 5 years since rep Pete King (R-NY) and fox news and other conservatives had a melt down over Obama's tan suit...(I didn't like the suit either but its not a national security emergency), there were melt downs over Dijon friggin mustard on a hamburger, we were joking that if Trump did that would his supporters stop supporting him?
Because Trump has great judgement and is fighting those that wish to destroy our borders, culture and nation.
Now that Hillary is out of the picture you should care.
We are a nation of rebels who should always hold our leaders to high standards. When you vote for the lesser of two evils you have to then hold that evil accountable.
But Hillary isn't out of the picture, the Clintons have a ton of political power in Washington DC to this day, they're still deeply connected politically and financially to just about everyone and every other nation out there. On top of all of that, our nation has wasted millions and millions of dollars and wasted years following a false accusation started and paid for by the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
I hold our leaders to high standards in subjects that matter, I don't give a damn about the First Lady's standards or what the President does on his personal time nor I do I care about what he did before being elected.
1- Trump ain't perfect and people can disagree with him - but the left continually has lied about who he is.
2- The economy
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Obama was PRESIDENT and equipped to handle that. He didn't need Mitch McConnell to do a damn thing 
