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Old 09-03-2019, 03:07 PM
 
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https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...t-rape-culture

The Rape 'Epidemic' Doesn't Actually Exist
Statistics don't support the contention that 'rape culture' is pervasive.




...The Bureau of Justice Statistics' "Violent Victimization of College Students" report tells a different and more plausible story about campus culture. During the years surveyed, 1995-2002, the DOJ found that there were six rapes or sexual assaults per thousand per year. Across the nation's four million female college students, that comes to about one victim in forty students. Other DOJ statistics show that the overall rape rate is in sharp decline: since 1995, the estimated rate of female rape or sexual assault victimizations has decreased by about 60 percent....
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:19 PM
 
Location: London
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https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...t-rape-culture

The Rape 'Epidemic' Doesn't Actually Exist
Statistics don't support the contention that 'rape culture' is pervasive.




...The Bureau of Justice Statistics' "Violent Victimization of College Students" report tells a different and more plausible story about campus culture. During the years surveyed, 1995-2002, the DOJ found that there were six rapes or sexual assaults per thousand per year. Across the nation's four million female college students, that comes to about one victim in forty students. Other DOJ statistics show that the overall rape rate is in sharp decline: since 1995, the estimated rate of female rape or sexual assault victimizations has decreased by about 60 percent....
That DOJ stat only indicates the number of officially legally reported/filed cases there were. The vast majority of rapes and sexual assaults are unfortunately not reported. IIRC the 1 in 4 stat is based on an anonymous survey of women.
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:27 PM
 
Location: London
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so many slutty women today, men realize so many women don't have any respect for themselves, grab and go.
Men who do that are just as slutty and lacking in self-respect.
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Old 09-03-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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How about the man not engage in sex if the man does not want any possibility of the woman getting pregnant and potentially changing his life forever. That does not and will not happen.
That's all well and good but he's still not the one that will get pregnant so there's less risk for him. It is the woman that is at risk and has a lot more to lose therefore she more so than her male partner should take the most precautions to see that it doesn't happen. What part of that aren't you getting?
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Old 09-03-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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You just cannot entice your typical low income woman into birthing with modest welfare support. Conservatives should relax. Sure, she'll take the money but she'll not make any more babies with welfare or without. It is hard work and they have better things to do. Besides even low income people do not want give birth to the future janitors and such. This massive society wide shaming of work that does not pay got under their skulls, they do not want to make slaves for more opulent crowd, but luckily their latina sisters down South fill the void.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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It's not the male's role for a female to not get pregnant.

Women are privileged with the right to decide who and when sex happens. With that privilege comes responsibility.
Men also decide who and when sex happens.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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Perhaps it can be explained by money madness.

Having children is just life seeking to make more abundant life. It has nothing to do with the sum and value of money tokens in circulation, or your ability to acquire them.

A primitive but sane culture would recognize that prosperity is acquiring one's necessities - food, water, shelter - from the lands and surrounding resources. A child is a blessing, and cannot be evaluated with money, at least not by sane people.

For what it's worth, poverty is caused by money, not cured by it. To illustrate, imagine what would happen if tomorrow, everyone awoke to the knowledge that they had a balance of 22 billion billion quatloos – a sum of money that would make them “set for life.” Who needs more money? Even the starving children are phenomenally rich.

If everyone decided they didn’t need to work anymore, civilization would collapse. That is “money madness” at work.

Modern money madness requires scarce money tokens and an indoctrinated urge to acquire ever more money tokens. And this need for money drives all activities, legal and illegal. It is so powerful, money madness can overpower moral codes so that one would "sell their grandmother" if the price was right. That is evil.

Eventually, people will have to embrace generating prosperity, not for money's sake, but that is what civilized people do - produce surplus goods and services, equitably traded and enjoyed. Then procreation won't be challenged because of the pricetag.

Damn it. I wanted to rep you for the Star Trek reference.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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I dont know the laws on this in every state but when paternity is established the state will go after them for child support.



In NY State, if a woman applies for Medicaid she must indicate that she will cooperate with the Child Support Enforcement Unit if she lists children on her application and no father. If she says no her Medicaid will be denied (her child's/children's won't be). She has to demonstrate "good cause" when contacted by the CSEU that providing information about the father(s) will put her or her children in danger.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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It's not the male's role for a female to not get pregnant.

Women are privileged with the right to decide who and when sex happens. With that privilege comes responsibility.

That goes both ways. Men have the equal right to say no if the woman wants to be irresponsible about birth control.
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Old 09-03-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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That's all well and good but he's still not the one that will get pregnant so there's less risk for him. It is the woman that is at risk and has a lot more to lose therefore she more so than her male partner should take the most precautions to see that it doesn't happen. What part of that aren't you getting?

No, but he's the one who is going to be on the hook for child support whether or not he went into the sexual encounter looking to come out it as a father.



I was on the phone today discussing health insurance with a guy who was whining about how he qualified for a health insurance plan where *gasp* he has to pay out a premium, a deductible, and copays/co-insurance. The guy makes $70,000 yet pays out child support to his girlfriend for their 2-year-old (he also claims them both on his income taxes). He was whining because the Marketplace considers gross income, not net pay, so "oh, the bills I pay, the child support..."


If I wanted to chance getting fired I could have told him not to make kids that he can't afford to pay for, and be more prudent about his overall expenses. Women aren't the only ones who need to learn how to keep their pants zipped up.
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