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Old 09-02-2019, 09:54 AM
 
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That's exactly what the Nazis said back in the day. You wish for them to repeat that mistake?
That's beyond a strawman to compare this situation to Nazis.

This constant extreme straw grasping is so out of control.

Besides the Nazis were authoritarian leftists
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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W Bush speechwriter David Frum had a recent article in the Atlantic that said in essence, 'if liberals won't enforce borders, fascists will.'
https://www.npr.org/2019/03/22/70572...-fascists-will

Something to think about when 2 of 3 front-running Dem candidates advocate decriminalization of illegal border crossings.

That was a pretty profound statement, and they should pay attention to that.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Florida
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East Germany. Unbelievable that people are rooting for the neoNazis and antiSemites. But then again they root for Putin too.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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That's beyond a strawman to compare this situation to Nazis.

This constant extreme straw grasping is so out of control.

Besides the Nazis were authoritarian leftists
They have neoNazi members. Their economy is slowing. We have tyrannical autocrats popping up all over the world. The scene is set, and it could absolutely happen again. The far right has already started the "blame the other" game. Even in the US.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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https://www.axios.com/germany-state-...7b177d49d.html

So it continues...the end of globalism/the new world order/international socialism/however you want to define terms. The AFD failed to get a victory, but got its highest vote totals ever. Very similar to the split decision for Europe in May.

We have seen Brexit, Trump, Salvini, Orban in Hungary, a close victory for Le Penn's party in France. the end of Merkel, independence movements in Catalonia and Scotland, the takeover by Law and Justice in Poland...

I have one point to this thread. Historians generally agree that history does not repeat itself. When the "old days" are gone, they are gone for good. That does not mean that the triumph of the right in Western politics is inevitable, but I think it is apparent and inescapable for all, whether they like it or not, that we have seen the high water mark of globalism, and the left. It has broken, and is rolling back, albeit slowly.

Agree? Disagree?
But we are told incessantly by the conservatives here that Nazis are leftists.

So according to their logic, it is actually the left who are making gains in Germany (since this group are basically neo-Nazis).

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Old 09-02-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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“'if liberals won't enforce borders, fascists will.“
translation- Republicans will enforce borders, and leftist will call them fascists for doing so.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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Didn't the Germans have enough of the far right during the 30s and 40s?
I can't say that a major component of the Nazi platform was cutting down mass immigration from the Middle East and Africa. Go figure.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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That was a pretty profound statement, and they should pay attention to that.
Agreed. It's confounding to me that the Democrats are walking a road that practically guarantees losing much of the vote of middle America.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Agreed. It's confounding to me that the Democrats are walking a road that practically guarantees losing much of the vote of middle America.
Both sides are moving to the extremes, when there are answers in the middle.
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Old 09-02-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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Didn't the Germans have enough of the far right during the 30s and 40s?
If they don't choose the normals (what you call the "far right") soon, there will be no later.
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