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It did seem to help to pressure Mexico to enforce its own southern border - to keep Guatemalans, Hondurans from entering its own country (Mexico). This is just one simple measure that a competent administration would come up with -- Just creative management by our politicians.
Make Mexico pay through economic pressure (decrease trade, withhold aid, etc).
No wall needed for this accomplishment.
Is Mexico stopping their own citizens from entering our country illegally? No, and they haven't for years and years.
Yes, walls are needed on the most porous areas of the border. Still in denial in spite of the numerous links I have provided proving that they are very effective including the sentiments of the Border Patrol and Homeland Security? Why don't you and yours just admit that you want the flow of illegals to continue unabated and be done with it?
Can a court stop this? If so they should've waited until the deed was done to make it public. Easier to ask forgiveness and all that.
The transfer of money is legal, so this is not an argument about the Trump administration illegally transferring funds. Besides, it's a transfer of funds from one federal agency to another. These funds have already been appropriated by Congress.
Meanwhile, when Obama was president he illegally transferred $3 billion a year of taxpayer money, from the US Treasury to private insurance companies.
Obama called it "cost-sharing subsidies," and the court ruled that it was illegal, and violated our US Constitution. No president can simply take money from the Treasury and hand it out to privately owned companies; his pen and phone be damned.
I wonder if the same people complaining bitterly about this $3.6 billion, also complained when Obama violated the US Constitution by illegally transferring over $10 billion? I doubt it.
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fake national crises - our country has lost checks and balances of our Fed Gov't by the co-equal branches.
It isn't being lost, it's being stolen by a spoiled little brat who will kick, scream, and do any under-handed thing necessary to get his own damn way. Personally, I'd prefer he hold his breath instead.
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The transfer of money is legal, so this is not an argument about the Trump administration illegally transferring funds. Besides, it's a transfer of funds from one federal agency to another. These funds have already been appropriated by Congress.
Meanwhile, when Obama was president he illegally transferred $3 billion a year of taxpayer money, from the US Treasury to private insurance companies.
Obama called it "cost-sharing subsidies," and the court ruled that it illegal, and violated our US Constitution. No president can simply take money from the Treasury and hand it out to privately owned companies; his pen and phone be damned.
I wonder if the same people complaining bitterly about this $3.6 billion, also complained when Obama violated the US Constitution by illegally transferring over $10 billion? I doubt it.
NOT for the purpose it's being misappropriated for! But yeah, keep making excuses for the Spoiled Little Brat in Chief.
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The sad thing is, you still think Trump meant that Mexico was actually going to cut a check to the US Treasury.
Even sadder are those who believed it and voted for it to happen. But we know Kelleyanne, what he said and what we see isn't reality, just believe all the LIES you're fed.
We have wasted Trillions under the past 2 administrations.
1 trillion alone on the F-35 dud....
Obama's 40 million dollar gas station in Afghanistan
Obama's 14 billion dollar Ford Class Carrier that can't do much of anything, but does have co-ed heads.
3.6 billion? pffft pennies. The left wasn't worried about the pennies when it was Obama wasting them.
How much did we spend involving ourselves in Libya's civil war? Syria? Trying to buy Iran's friendship?
3.6 billion on our own border? That's better than the 540 million spent on Solyndra.
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