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Old 09-05-2019, 07:38 PM
 
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Sure thing OP. Next you will tell us that Dorian was imaginary. Try telling that to the people of the Bahamas. Let us not forget the fifty inches of rain that fell from Harvey in TX. Climate change is causing the huge increase in mass and power of hurricanes

Meteorologists are now recommending we establish a new category for hurricanes a CAT 6.

I am sure there are those who say, 'I am in the mountains, so what.' While you may not be affected physically by hurricanes you are going to pay for the damages via your taxes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZCQHvRg2k
Yeah, because there were no hurricanes prior to SUVs.
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:42 PM
 
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I think Anthony Watts should publish his findings so that the AGW crowd can see how they're all wrong. Oh wait, the data has already been published and discussed! Problem solved! But of course the denier crowd will claim conspiracy, ignorant liberal scientists, blah blah blah.

Really, there will always be deniers of anything - there are flat-earthers, there are people who believe man never landed on the moon, there are people who don't believe the Holocaust happened, or Sandy Hook. So a few AGW deniers is to be expected. But it is pointless to debate with them as they will cling to their conspiracy theories. So what's the point? The world has moved on. Like it or not, AGW is a policy driver for most countries and many industries.
"We need to do something about climate change, because I don't want the seas to rise and ruin my car, air conditioner or trip to the Bahamas - I already have my plane ticket. Plus my brand new iPhone isn't warranted against salt water. Worse comes to worse, my new 55" television has YouTube built in. But back on topic, we need to do something!"
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:44 PM
 
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You realize, don't you, that labeling those who question the hypothesis of AGW "denialists" is anti-science and an anti-academic labeling of those who are simply doing what is supposed to be done in actual science- examining and questioning a hypothesis.
It can't be anti-science b/c you aren't a scientist. It's akin to me asking my cousin's kindergarten teacher to assess my need for a triple by-pass. Am I anti-medicine if I tell her I am listening to my doctor and not her...
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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And Yet we’re going to spend trillions and lower our standard of living over a hoax!







https://www.commentarymagazine.com/p...ata-locations/
Sure we wouldn't want to lower our standard of living over a hoax, those warming temperatures, Iceland melting, increased hurricane activity and flooding don't cost us a cent. Get ready to shell out a few billion each year and accept more refugees from climate change.
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Old 09-05-2019, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Yeah, because there were no hurricanes prior to SUVs.
Literally no climatologist has ever made the argument that there were no hurricanes before the industrial revolution. In fact, no single hurricane can be directly attributed to climate change, just like no other singular weather event can be. If you knew anything about climate, you would know this already, but I guess making these kinds of sarcastic remarks is a lot easier than educating yourself of what climate change really is.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:05 PM
 
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I've been saying that for years.
AFAIK China has very strict rules for standard stations. They keep moving the stations outwards due to urbanization.
In the US the stations could be just close to downtown (such as the one for Boston). It does not make sense.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Sure thing OP. Next you will tell us that Dorian was imaginary. Try telling that to the people of the Bahamas. Let us not forget the fifty inches of rain that fell from Harvey in TX. Climate change is causing the huge increase in mass and power of hurricanes

Meteorologists are now recommending we establish a new category for hurricanes a CAT 6.

I am sure there are those who say, 'I am in the mountains, so what.' While you may not be affected physically by hurricanes you are going to pay for the damages via your taxes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZCQHvRg2k
What??? Just because a hurricane hits somewhere doesn't mean anything about global warming. If Dorian had stayed out to sea, would you be talking about it like that? People like to point to Sandy. Well Sandy was actually a minor storm. The effects were major due to the track it took and the places it hit! It wasn't particularly powerful or really all that unusual.



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It can't be anti-science b/c you aren't a scientist. It's akin to me asking my cousin's kindergarten teacher to assess my need for a triple by-pass. Am I anti-medicine if I tell her I am listening to my doctor and not her...
Anyone that does or studies science is a scientist! Just because you don't have a specific degree doesn't mean you can't understand the basic scientific principles (that the AGW crows regularly throws out the window).
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:38 AM
 
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Sure we wouldn't want to lower our standard of living over a hoax, those warming temperatures, Iceland melting, increased hurricane activity and flooding don't cost us a cent. Get ready to shell out a few billion each year and accept more refugees from climate change.
increased hurricane activity? This decade had less than the previous decades.

1960's - 15
1970's - 12
1980's - 16
1990's - 14
2000's - 19
2010's - 12


https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/E23.html
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Old 09-06-2019, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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The denialist movement is sad and delusional.
Do you ever question science? If not, why? Scientists have been proven wrong innumerable times over the last thousand years.

While I would not classify myself as a "denier," I am quite skeptical of much that has occurred in this field over the last 40 years or so has been on the up and up (and I know a couple of climate scientists). Time will tell who is right and who is wrong.
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Old 09-06-2019, 12:27 PM
 
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Do you ever question science? If not, why? Scientists have been proven wrong innumerable times over the last thousand years.

While I would not classify myself as a "denier," I am quite skeptical of much that has occurred in this field over the last 40 years or so has been on the up and up (and I know a couple of climate scientists). Time will tell who is right and who is wrong.
Picture a bunch of scientists on a road trip. But they don't have a map. But after much research they figure out where to go. Some disagree, and believe the direction is 30 degrees east, but all in all, they’re all heading the same general direction. Meanwhile there is a few scientists that dont agree and go the opposite direction, even though the other scientists checked and tell them that its a dead end.

So the idea is settled in that, yes, we all agree on this idea, but there maybe ither factors etc. but nothing concrete has convinced us that this is the wrong road. Any new ideas or findings is just simply changing lanes.
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