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Old 09-10-2019, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Those who are gay feed the entity spirit of gayness.. they believe the lie.. Sex is addictive and those that fall into sexual deviancy are ruled by their body . The gay spirit is a spirit of confusion. If it is fed and entertained then it will become to fruition. It is an activity not an identity. Those that wrap themselves around their gayness , it becomes their identity . This is the lie they fed and entertained.
True, a guy who preaches conversion therapy and 20 years later admits he was, in fact, gay the whole time has been VERY confused for a long time.

It's always good when people stop being confused.
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Old 09-25-2019, 04:05 PM
 
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He works with NARTH, hardly pro LGBT.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/cultu...als-can-change


Cummings stressed that he favors ďgay rightsĒ and ďgay marriage,Ē but he says an individual must decide what to do with his or her orientation, not the APA or homosexual activists. He says people have a right to disagree about ďgay rightsĒ and ďgay marriage,Ē but that among the APA leadership ďthatís not allowed. You only hear one side of the issue.Ē


and this was in 2012
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Old 09-25-2019, 04:29 PM
 
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Honest question from a prior thread. Why does homosexuality get such disparate treatment compared to other sins by so many Christians? Are you aware of the context of those Leviticus quotes referring to abomination as a prohibition of male temple prostitutes and the English translation is disputed? Why donít Jews condemn homosexuality so fervently despite the fact that they are essentially still living the Old Testament?

jew do condemn homosexuality
jews who don't follow Judaism.
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Old 09-25-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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In other words, you pretty strongly believe homosexuality is a worse and more severe sin than adultery. This is because God does not view adultery as deviant or as an abomination. However, since God doesn't feel adultery is as serious of a sin as homosexuality, then why does one of the Ten Commandments say "Thou shalt not commit adultery"? It seems both sins are not of an equally severe nature or else that commandment would have said, "Thou shalt not commit adultery and homosexuality".
the iben ezra makes it clear that homosexuality is included in the word niyuf that is in the original hebrew.
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Old Today, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Here.
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Why is conversion therapy wrong, but transgender therapy okay? Itís not okay to change who we think we are, but okay to change who we really are?

Not that I really care, but just wondering if someone can explain this to me without accusing me of being something that I am not.

...so that I donít have to go to transposter conversion therapy.
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Old Today, 10:49 AM
 
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Why is conversion therapy wrong, but transgender therapy okay? Itís not okay to change who we think we are, but okay to change who we really are?

Not that I really care, but just wondering if someone can explain this to me without accusing me of being something that I am not.

...so that I donít have to go to transposter conversion therapy.
I presume this is our double-standards at work?
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Old Today, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Why is conversion therapy wrong, but transgender therapy okay? Itís not okay to change who we think we are, but okay to change who we really are?

Not that I really care, but just wondering if someone can explain this to me without accusing me of being something that I am not.

...so that I donít have to go to transposter conversion therapy.
Because gay people donít need any change, mentally or physically, to be who they really are and have always been. Trans people do.
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Old Today, 12:05 PM
 
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Because gay people donít need any change, mentally or physically, to be who they really are and have always been. Trans people do.
But only because they want to. What if a gay person wants to be heterosexual or vice-versa? Seems to me a person should have the freedom of being whatever sexual orientation they want.
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Old Today, 12:18 PM
 
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But only because they want to. What if a gay person wants to be heterosexual or vice-versa? Seems to me a person should have the freedom of being whatever sexual orientation they want.
Interesting point, some movie producers to some tv-movies about hetero who come out of the closet and will there be a tv-movie showing the other way?
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Old Today, 12:37 PM
 
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Why is conversion therapy wrong, but transgender therapy okay? Itís not okay to change who we think we are, but okay to change who we really are?

Not that I really care, but just wondering if someone can explain this to me without accusing me of being something that I am not.

...so that I donít have to go to transposter conversion therapy.
Because gay conversion therapy has been proven to not work and just make them even worse off mental health wise.
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