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Old 09-08-2019, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Yeah right.

You keep believing that if it makes you feel better..
I see you have a problem accepting facts. Not surprising in this post-truth world Trump has placed you cons in.
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Old 09-08-2019, 03:19 PM
 
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...is there nothing Trump can't do?
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's not the wrath of God we need to fear. Instead, it's the stupid actions of humans, especially the hateful ones.
To the sinner, the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God.. Jesus said repent of your sins.. all sinners are already condemned.. Their sin condemned them. God hates sin and will not accept sin.. This is why Jesus was sent. To tell them to REPENT. turn from their sin. God's word stands. It is God who made the path . Sin stands between man and God.



God is truthful. His statements are in the bible. One must renounce their sin and accept Jesus as their savior. One cannot accept sin above God. As the bible states. Either you are a child of God or a child of the Devil. Either you hate one and love the other.



I don't condemn anyone.. everyone was condemned because of sin.. it is their choice not mine to stay in condemnation. The word of God is the Judge. It is written.



KJ21
“He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Honest question from a prior thread. Why does homosexuality get such disparate treatment compared to other sins by so many Christians? Are you aware of the context of those Leviticus quotes referring to abomination as a prohibition of male temple prostitutes and the English translation is disputed? Why don’t Jews condemn homosexuality so fervently despite the fact that they are essentially still living the Old Testament?

Why is it made into such a boogeyman? Why is hate for homosexuality also so often coming from people engaged in sloth and gluttony? Just self hate and they’re the scapegoats to project onto?

Collectively they act as if Jesus was quoted directly in the Bible saying they should be called out for special treatment. I personally don’t know how anyone reads the Bible and comes away with that rather than to approach everyone with love
To God, ask him why He said Homosexuality is an abomination. it is a deviant behavior . It is unnatural to have sex with the same sex. If 99% of people accepted Homosexuality as normal God would not ... Jesus is the same, Yesterday Today and forever. It does not matter how many accept it , it is still an abomination to God. In the last days , good will be proclaimed as bad, and bad proclaimed as good.


Jesus is God. Jesus is the word of God. To create your own god to fit your own belief system is not the true God of the bible. To be a believer is to believe every word of the bible. If you do not, you are not a believer.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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To God, ask him why He said Homosexuality is an abomination. it is a deviant behavior . It is unnatural to have sex with the same sex. If 99% of people accepted Homosexuality as normal God would not ... Jesus is the same, Yesterday Today and forever. It does not matter how many accept it , it is still an abomination to God. In the last days , good will be proclaimed as bad, and bad proclaimed as good.


Jesus is God. Jesus is the word of God. To create your own god to fit your own belief system is not the true God of the bible. To be a believer is to believe every word of the bible. If you do not, you are not a believer.
In other words, you pretty strongly believe homosexuality is a worse and more severe sin than adultery. This is because God does not view adultery as deviant or as an abomination. However, since God doesn't feel adultery is as serious of a sin as homosexuality, then why does one of the Ten Commandments say "Thou shalt not commit adultery"? It seems both sins are not of an equally severe nature or else that commandment would have said, "Thou shalt not commit adultery and homosexuality".
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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To God, ask him why He said Homosexuality is an abomination. it is a deviant behavior . It is unnatural to have sex with the same sex. If 99% of people accepted Homosexuality as normal God would not ... Jesus is the same, Yesterday Today and forever. It does not matter how many accept it , it is still an abomination to God. In the last days , good will be proclaimed as bad, and bad proclaimed as good.

Jesus is God. Jesus is the word of God. To create your own god to fit your own belief system is not the true God of the bible. To be a believer is to believe every word of the bible. If you do not, you are not a believer.
God doesn’t exist.

And you don’t get to bring your religion into the public policy space when your motivation is to restrict the civil rights of gay people.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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To God, ask him why He said Homosexuality is an abomination. it is a deviant behavior . It is unnatural to have sex with the same sex. If 99% of people accepted Homosexuality as normal God would not ... Jesus is the same, Yesterday Today and forever. It does not matter how many accept it , it is still an abomination to God. In the last days , good will be proclaimed as bad, and bad proclaimed as good.


Jesus is God. Jesus is the word of God. To create your own god to fit your own belief system is not the true God of the bible. To be a believer is to believe every word of the bible. If you do not, you are not a believer.
The word that was translated to abomination is תֹּועֵבָה toevah. Which is also used when referring to eating pork or shellfish. So why aren't Christians going after that?

It also calls for executing disobedient children. Where's the push for that?

Which translation of the bible is the word? Because you must choose among man made translations which have differences. Heck what books are canonical? That varies based on man made decisions per denomination. If it's God's perfect word how can entire books be considered both canon and apocryphal by different people who claim the same religion?

You have to study the context that bible verses were written in. Cannot simply read a a verse or two in an english translation at face value.

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Old 09-09-2019, 10:59 AM
 
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"Idiot" was added by me.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ay/2210789001/

I wish all such conversion therapy people would come to realize gay people are gay and don't need to be "fixed".

It's more a matter of can't be fixed than needing to be fixed.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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In other words, you pretty strongly believe homosexuality is a worse and more severe sin than adultery. This is because God does not view adultery as deviant or as an abomination. However, since God doesn't feel adultery is as serious of a sin as homosexuality, then why does one of the Ten Commandments say "Thou shalt not commit adultery"? It seems both sins are not of an equally severe nature or else that commandment would have said, "Thou shalt not commit adultery and homosexuality".
That is because the sin of homosexuality is a deviant behavior and not a natural occurance. It is not commonplace.
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Old 09-09-2019, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The word that was translated to abomination is תֹּועֵבָה toevah. Which is also used when referring to eating pork or shellfish. So why aren't Christians going after that?

It also calls for executing disobedient children. Where's the push for that?

Which translation of the bible is the word? Because you must choose among man made translations which have differences. Heck what books are canonical? That varies based on man made decisions per denomination. If it's God's perfect word how can entire books be considered both canon and apocryphal by different people who claim the same religion?

You have to study the context that bible verses were written in. Cannot simply read a a verse or two in an english translation at face value.
It is such and a grievous sin , Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed.
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