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Old 09-05-2019, 10:00 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
Putting America first.

I know how the left hates that.
So what has he accomplished to so call putting us first.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:01 PM
 
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it was successful, pathetic, but successful.


i also believe it was a strategy developed by roger stone rather than some shrewd plan of trump's.
Lol. Y'all seem to believe Trump is a very stupid mastermind that is able to pull off anything he wants even though he's an idiot.

Nice logic.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:02 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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The DNC doesn't want open borders, they want immigration reform that is not unnecessarily cruel. Because they're not horrible people.
nope..
the DNC and nearly every liberal candidate has showed they want open borders...no deportation of any kind...and to abolish the immigration/border patrol

the liberals doomed themselves at the recent debates when they showed they want open borders (that illegals who cross into the US illegally, should not e charged NOR deported) AND when they said illegals should get free medical..... nearly everyone on the stage raised their hands and showed their treasonous ways...… the liberals are doomed

abolish ice AND abolish borders... and its the socialist liberals pushing it...socialism wants NO BORDERS


Lenin in 1916 proclaimed:

"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them."






Abolish ICE, and Abolish the Border Too: A Socialist Perspective

The movement to abolish ICE has sparked a conversation among socialists about borders and their relation to capitalism.


Abolish ICE, and Abolish the Border Too: A Socialist Perspective




Progressive politicians like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have made “Abolish ICE” a central item on their campaign agendas, motivating high-profile Democrats like Senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Elizabeth Warren, as well as New York mayor Bill de Blasio, to follow suit. Most recently, NYC gubernatorial candidate and now self-proclaimed “democratic socialist,” Cynthia Nixon echoed the criticisms, referring to ICE as a “terrorist organization.” Given that Nixon is decidedly more of a democrat than a socialist, this bold statement is another sign that liberals are willing to not only embrace the demand to abolish ICE but to also go so far as to have open borders

equate ICE and ISIS.






======================================


Everyone's wrong on immigration: Open borders are the only way to defeat Trump and build a better world


https://www.salon.com/2017/03/15/eve...-better-world/




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https://cis.org/Krikorian/Yes-Democr...e-Open-Borders






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Hillary Clinton did when, in a paid speech in 2013, she talked about her dream of open borders


https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-open-borders/


============================


Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., isn’t on the fringe of the Left. He is the second ranking member of the Democratic National Committee and he basically wears his immigration policy on his sleeve. More specifically, the No. 2 Democrat wore a T-Shirt that literally said “I don’t believe in borders.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...s-open-borders




==================================


liberal USATODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/862185002/
The solution to America’s immigration problems is open borders, under which the United States imposes no immigration restrictions at all.


======================


https://openborders.info/blog/open-borders-americans/
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:03 PM
 
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Lol. Y'all seem to believe Trump is a very stupid mastermind ....

again, i claimed the strategy was at roger stone's direction, not trump's.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:04 PM
 
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So what has he accomplished to so call putting us first.
First, he's tryingvto secure the border which is good for the US.

Second, he simplified taxes for a large number of citizens.

Third, he's trying to do things to keep more jobs here.

Yeah, I know Obama dropped way more bombs on brown people on the other side of the globe, but tgat doesn't really help us.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
Putting America first.

I know how the left hates that.
Was it America First when Trump sided with the Saudis, the nation which provided most of the 9/11 hijackers, when they murdered an American journalist? You know, because he had weapons to sell them.
Was it America First when Trump undermined the entire US intelligence community to say Russia didn't hack the election when they all said that they did?
Was it America First when Trump promised Mexico would pay for the wall, but the US military and US taxpayers are?
Was it America First when Trump repeatedly gave classified information to adversaries, including the recent reveal of a US spy satellite?
Was it America First when Trump barely acknowledged that PR is part of the US and its people are US citizens after Hurricane Maria?
Was it America First when Trump screwed over most Americans when he gave a trillion dollar tax cut to himself and his friends?
Was it America First when he hurt US farmers in his ridiculous trade war he'll never win?
Was it America First when he attacked multiple states and cities that were critical of him?
Was it America First when he described neo-Nazi scum as "fine people"?
Was it America First when he said an American judge with a non-white background couldn't be impartial?
Was it America First when Trump repeatedly attacked the 1st and 4th Amendments of the Constitution, to name a few?
Was it America First when he wet his pants in admiration for a North Korean dictator and mass murderer while legitimizing him on the national stage?
Was it America First when he pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal just because Obama did it, and now we're facing a rapidly-rising nuclear Iran, which threatens all of the world?
Was it America First when he has undermined almost every regulation protecting the health, incomes, jobs and environment of its citizens?

Your "America First" is a wasteland of corruption, immorality, lawlessness and cruelty. You should hang your head in shame for all the people you gleefully hurt, but I haven't met a Trump supporter yet with a shred of a conscience.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
First, he's tryingvto secure the border which is good for the US.

Second, he simplified taxes for a large number of citizens.

Third, he's trying to do things to keep more jobs here.

Yeah, I know Obama dropped way more bombs on brown people on the other side of the globe, but tgat doesn't really help us.
The wall won't secure the border. Most undocumented either overstay their legal visas, or they come in through ports of entry. The wall addresses none of that. It's pandering to people who don't understand immigration, and it's stealing from the military and other important programs.
How has he simplified taxes? Most people have to pay more after his "tax cut".
And yet his actions, including the trade war, are raising fears of a recession. Economic studies have shown little actual positives with any of his policies so far.
What does Obama have to do with Trump other than being a common Trump deflection?
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:16 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Was it America First when Trump sided with the Saudis, the nation which provided most of the 9/11 hijackers, when they murdered an American journalist? You know, because he had weapons to sell them.
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ALQ did 9/11.. not the Saudis


what does the nationalities (where they are born) of the 9/11 attackers have to do with their theological stance ??
? so what does 15 of the attacker being BORN in SA have to do with their GROUP AFFILIATION???







try this scenario...and actual answer it..honestly...

a bunch of former New Yorkers, who still have family in NY and even get money for those families in NY, are now members of a fanatical church in New Jersey, and are living in NJ, they travel all over the USA getting supplies/training/etc....then they bomb an abortion clinic in Pennsylvania ...are you going to blame the government of New York State...or would you blame the fanatical church in New Jersey??????


answer honestly.......



he was NOT an American jouralist , he was Saudi born of Turkish decent


Khashoggi was supportive of the muslim brotherhood (a extremist organization). In one of his own blogs he argued for the Muslim brotherhood, and wrote that “there can be no policy in any Arab country without accepting that extreme Islam is a part of it
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
First, he's tryingvto secure the border which is good for the US.

Second, he simplified taxes for a large number of citizens.

Third, he's trying to do things to keep more jobs here.

Yeah, I know Obama dropped way more bombs on brown people on the other side of the globe, but tgat doesn't really help us.
He’s trying but what exactly has he accomplished other than tax reform which benefited the rich more than the middle class. And we don’t need a wall. We need comprehensive immigration reform.
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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nope..
the DNC and nearly every liberal candidate has showed they want open borders...no deportation of any kind...and to abolish the immigration/border patrol

the liberals doomed themselves at the recent debates when they showed they want open borders (that illegals who cross into the US illegally, should not e charged NOR deported) AND when they said illegals should get free medical..... nearly everyone on the stage raised their hands and showed their treasonous ways...… the liberals are doomed

abolish ice AND abolish borders... and its the socialist liberals pushing it...socialism wants NO BORDERS


Lenin in 1916 proclaimed:

"The aim of socialism is not only to abolish the present division of mankind into smaller states and all-national isolation, not only to bring the nations closer to each other, but also to merge them."






Abolish ICE, and Abolish the Border Too: A Socialist Perspective

The movement to abolish ICE has sparked a conversation among socialists about borders and their relation to capitalism.


Abolish ICE, and Abolish the Border Too: A Socialist Perspective




Progressive politicians like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have made “Abolish ICE” a central item on their campaign agendas, motivating high-profile Democrats like Senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Elizabeth Warren, as well as New York mayor Bill de Blasio, to follow suit. Most recently, NYC gubernatorial candidate and now self-proclaimed “democratic socialist,” Cynthia Nixon echoed the criticisms, referring to ICE as a “terrorist organization.” Given that Nixon is decidedly more of a democrat than a socialist, this bold statement is another sign that liberals are willing to not only embrace the demand to abolish ICE but to also go so far as to have open borders

equate ICE and ISIS.






======================================


Everyone's wrong on immigration: Open borders are the only way to defeat Trump and build a better world


https://www.salon.com/2017/03/15/eve...-better-world/




========================


https://cis.org/Krikorian/Yes-Democr...e-Open-Borders






====================


Hillary Clinton did when, in a paid speech in 2013, she talked about her dream of open borders


https://www.investors.com/politics/e...-open-borders/


============================


Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., isn’t on the fringe of the Left. He is the second ranking member of the Democratic National Committee and he basically wears his immigration policy on his sleeve. More specifically, the No. 2 Democrat wore a T-Shirt that literally said “I don’t believe in borders.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...s-open-borders




==================================


liberal USATODAY
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/862185002/
The solution to America’s immigration problems is open borders, under which the United States imposes no immigration restrictions at all.


======================


https://openborders.info/blog/open-borders-americans/

Your posting style is a mess. If all you're going to do is post lies and laughably dubious opinion pieces about what the Right thinks the Left is, at least learn how to make it coherent.
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