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Old 09-08-2019, 08:01 PM
 
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Letís see how they feel when you tell them that if you donít worship an all loving God they are going to burn in Hell. And that the same God created evil so he has something to save them from. Be honest about it.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create EVIL: I the Lord do all these things.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:04 PM
 
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All about skin color.. Democrats are all about skin color and preach that if you are not white you are lessor.. they are the racists.. they make every darker skin color person into a victim because of the color of their skin.... this is the democrat racist party .
You just give off the typical deflections the right gives. Not saying you, or all of right wingers or trumpers.

But there's alot of love for trump from nazi and clan types.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:05 PM
 
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In 1963?
Pointing out points in history where people like to say are the "good ol' days".. When in fact history is full of bloodshed.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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If God is removed , Satan fills in the void.. people have no self respect.. they accept crude talk, degrading humor, and they also degrade God and themselves and show no respect or constraint in their actions . Man has morally come down fast.



Liberal thinking has destroyed many .. the government has helped destroy the family unit. Taking God out of school was a huge mistake. God cries out.. My people perish for lack of knowledge.
It wasn't a mistake. Far from it. Would you want a Jewish teacher to lead the class in prayer your son or daughter is in every morning?
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:14 PM
 
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Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create EVIL: I the Lord do all these things.
Did God Create Evil?

"Beginning in the previous chapter, and continuing into the present one, the Lord had argued the case for his sovereignty over the nations ó particularly his right to deal with his chosen people, the nation of Israel.
<snip>
In order to understand this statement, it must be viewed in concert with the overall affirmations of Scripture relative to the character of the Lord.
<snip>
Moral evil cannot be attributed to the Creator in any way (Hab. 1:13; Jas. 1:13-14)."
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One can not just take an excerpt out of the Bible and pass it off ... it doesn't work that way.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Lakeside, CA
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I'm not a practicing Christian, prob more an agnostic... but I would rather have Christians running this show than the f**ing liberals.....
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Did God Create Evil?

"Beginning in the previous chapter, and continuing into the present one, the Lord had argued the case for his sovereignty over the nations — particularly his right to deal with his chosen people, the nation of Israel.
<snip>
In order to understand this statement, it must be viewed in concert with the overall affirmations of Scripture relative to the character of the Lord.
<snip>
Moral evil cannot be attributed to the Creator in any way (Hab. 1:13; Jas. 1:13-14)."
_______________

One can not just take an excerpt out of the Bible and pass it off ... it doesn't work that way.
Your wrong, but let’s say your correct in what the Bible states there is only ONE word to describe it. Hypocritical. You took one verse and tried to pass it off. IF one is to believe that God created everything that would include evil. Good, bad, etc. Satan/Lucifer meaning he knew what creating Satan/Lucifer would bring about. Evil which he created. Period.

At any rate I’m not going to get any more off topic.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:26 PM
 
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New Education Reform Report written for the Trump administration would put the Christian God in public schools.

An alarming report, written by a Christian conservative group with ties to Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, plans for the promotion of Christianity in public schools and putting an end to the Department of Education.


Let the brain washing begin. This people need a history lesson.
This has been in the works for decades...and it's much more than "God in Schools"

It's the end of Democracy....if we can even say we ever had it.

These people do not believe in the Rule of the Law (of man) and they (The Family, a group of very powerful "Christian" politicians) are very clear - they want to install themselves (they are ordained by God) and Jesus himself at the head of ALL governments in the world.

Nothing to do with the US Constitution. A completely new Crusade....and they are dead serious about it. They run the National Prayer Breakfast, for example, and members include some of the top Senators, Governors and such.

They are a secret organization.

If anyone wants additional info I think there is a good documentary on the basics...but google it and there are even better books and articles. The Founder said Lenin, Stalin and Mao and Hitler "did it right" in terms of getting people to REALLY fall in line.
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:28 PM
 
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Or a psychologist because not everyone is religious and the world wasn't exactly a peachy place back then either.

holocaust, slavery, crusades, etc.
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Pointing out points in history where people like to say are the "good ol' days".. When in fact history is full of bloodshed.
Because people are complicated, so is their history and their values change

Some will stick with their principles; others not so much ...

But when in 1963 when the court ruled out school sponsored prayer, any one caught praying after that were subject to lawsuits ... up until the courts finally got tired of that nonsense, but there was no religious bloodshed at that moment in the history of our, 'good ol days'.

But seriously we are taking discipline out of the schools and we wonder why we are having violent gun issues in our schools.

The bloodshed that you are referring to is in the time (Crusades) that the Church ruled as a government over the lands, they waged wars and collected taxes. I don't think any one with a brain would refer to that time as the good ol days, seeing as how the reason people came across the oceans to here, was for freedom of religion. That is why you will have no argument on the Separation of Church and State, as long as the State, stays out of the Church's business.

Slavery was on its way out as it was 3000 years before as man's law, where as they began to reconcile with God's law and the morality of it all ...

Holocaust ... Just because a person says they are a Christian doesn't mean they are one.
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