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Old 09-07-2019, 09:57 AM
 
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Your god doesn’t seem to powerful if it can be “forced” out of public schools.
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Well we had 30 years of forcing god out of school
How did that work out?
How does one force a God out of any where?
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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Since how and when was this powerful, universal being, God, kicked out of public schools? It's about bringing the Christinn religion into public schools not God. I see Baptists bullying the Nazarenes and so on over which Christian religion is true.
So this is supposed to make us feel better in a country that is supposed to be about religious freedom?
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Right here; Right now
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Well we had 30 years of forcing god out of school
How did that work out?
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Your god doesn’t seem to powerful if it can be “forced” out of public schools.
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How does one force a God out of any where?
You're right, He can't, He can be brought in ... This is where the students learn about their rights and begin engagement of the rights and fights for freedom at an early age ... saw it right off, that the day would come when the student asks, 'why does it have to be this way'? then proceeds to engage in the fight for what's right. Freedom isn't inherited; handed down from one generation to the next. Freedom is something one has to fight for in order to keep, from one generation to the next.
Students' free speech rights survive school prayer lawsuit

Dacus tells OneNewsNow, however, the judge deserves credit for defending a student’s individual right.

"The court also should be given credit,” he says, “for the fact that it went out of its way to distinguish and protect student-initiated speech that may have religious content.”

According to Dacus, such anti-Christian organizations want to stamp out any and all religious expression regardless of its source.

“And they lost,” Dacus says of the group, because the federal judge recognized that state hostility toward religion violates a student’s free speech rights.

A spokesperson for the school district also praised the judge for recognizing that students “have the right to share their personal stories, even if those include a religious message."


They will continue to fight for their right year after year, to have prayers at graduation and sports games ... and in this fight, they learn and some of them will grow up to be government representatives. By telling children they can not have something they want, the schools are raising advocates for issues they believe in. Man's laws change, when enough people change their mind.

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Old 09-07-2019, 04:28 PM
 
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They didn't go into depth about Islam. And I would assume they do teach about other religions. They certainly did when I was in school.

Nothing in that "book" was an attempt to convert children to Islam or instructions about how to worship. What were these "many parents" livid about?
They were livid with the fact that the basics of the Islam religion were being taught.
For example:
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The Qur’an (“the recitation”) contains the messages Muhammad
believed he heard from God through the angel Gabriel over a period
of twenty-three years and which were written down by scribes and
memorized by others during his lifetime. It consists of 114 surahs,
or chapters, and is one of the authoritative sources on what Muslims
should believe and how they should behave.
In addition to the Qur’an, Muslims follow the Hadith, a collection
of reports on the teachings, deeds, and sayings of Muhammad and
his close companions that was compiled after his death.
One of the Hadith summarizes what are generally called the Five
Pillars of Islam:
Shahadah. The belief in one god, and Muhammad as his prophet
Salat. Prayer five times a day
Zakat. Giving a portion of one’s income to the poor and needy
Sawm. Fasting during Ramadan, the ninth month of the
Islamic calendar
Hajj. Pilgrimage to Mecca once in a lifetime
(pg 12 of my link).
If they are going to do this they need to teach about Judaism, Christianity etc.
That is what people are upset about. Also the other grades in the elementary school did not cover other religions either. This unit 4 book should be left completely out of the ELA curriculum and the unit 8 "Treasure Island" which covers the novel should have been used in its place. That is my opinion though.

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I agree with you. I'm not sure why parents would be livid. Based on the first paragraph of the book the OP or whomever posted, the school just learned about Christianity and now they are learning about Islam.

"The Middle Ages (Unit 2) revealed a time in Western Europe
when the Christian Church slowly replaced the Roman Empire. You
learned about the extraordinary power of the Church and its complex
relationship with rulers and the nobility.
While Western Europe became Christian, other powers and ideas
arose in the rest of the former Roman Empire. In the East, a new
religion emerged: Islam..."
Here's the thing, the school jumped all over the place. They also pick and choose
Unit 1: Personal Narratives
Unit 2: Middle Ages
Unit 3: Poetry
Unit 4: Islamic Empires in the Middle Ages
Unit 5: Eureka! Quest
Unit 6: Geology
Unit 7: American Revolution
Unit 8: Treasure Island
My daughter said they covered almost everything in units 1, 2, 4, 5, some of unit 3 and 6, maybe a couple of sheets out of unit 7, and none of unit 8.

Even the 5th grade units touches nothing else on any other religions
Unit 1: Personal Narratives
Unit 2: Early American Civilizations
Unit 3: Poetry
Unit 4: House on Mango Street
Unit 5: Adventures of Don Quixote
Unit 6: The Renaissance
Unit 7: The Reformation
Unit 8: A Midsummer Night’s Dream: Quest
Unit 9: Native Americans
3rd grade:
Unit 1: Classic Tales
Unit 2: Guide to Animals
Unit 3: How does your body work
Unit 4: Stories of Ancient Rome
Unit 5: Adventures in Light and Sound
Unit 6: Norse Mythology
Unit 7: What is in our Universe (Astronomy)
Unit 8: Native American Stories

So now that I've listed all the units in 3 different grades, do you see the issue?
If so many are so offended about God being in schools, then why is it OK for a school to use a curriculum to teach ELA about Islam? If Ramadan is being taught about, so should Rosh AhShana, Yuletide and Christmas among other religious holidays for other religions.
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Old 09-07-2019, 06:07 PM
 
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This is - BY FAR - the most dangerous thing Donald Trump has done. We have to stop him in 2020.

And I say that as a devout Christian myself. God has absolutely NO PLACE in public schools.
I agree.
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Old 09-08-2019, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Texas
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School kids are allowed to pray and even participate in Christians clubs in public schools.

Schools aren't allowed to require kids to pray.

That's been the law since about 1962 or so.

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Old 09-08-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Revelations and the day of Reckoning.
The Light of Good, fights dark Satanic evil.


-infanticide
-gun confiscation
-speech suppression
-open borders
-socialism
-racial identity politics
-government controlled healthcare
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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God never left- it is the people that turn away from him that have caused this solar eclipse of darkness
I am old and remember no violence against teachers and principal
We have moved to a different page
I agree God never left - but the violence at school was reverse. Some mean azz teachers back in my day. And still around like those that cut kids hair etc with out parent’s permission. Why you think they took away the paddles ? 2 - God is still here but the so called Christians have turned political and now chasing mammon. Took grands out of the Christian school as they were indoctrinating them to be republican. Go figure?
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Old 09-08-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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New Education Reform Report written for the Trump administration would put the Christian God in public schools.

An alarming report, written by a Christian conservative group with ties to Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, plans for the promotion of Christianity in public schools and putting an end to the Department of Education.

The Washington Post reports:

A policy manifesto from an influential conservative group with ties to the Trump administration, including Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, urges the dismantling of the Education Department and bringing God into American classrooms.


The “Education Reform Report” released by the Center for National Policy, a front for RADICAL conservative Christians with “ties to several top White House officials — including Education Secretary Betsy DeVos,” states:

We submit this report to the Donald Trump/Betsy DeVos administration with the hope that our organization may be of assistance with the restoration of education in America, in accordance with historic Judeo-Christian principles.


https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progre...aign=FBCP-PATH


Let the brain washing begin. This people need a history lesson.
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