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Old Today, 10:49 AM
 
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Football and basketball generate millions for these schools with most being predominantly black. Why shouldn’t they take their resources to an HBCU?? Per the article, institutions were fine with keeping blacks out until they saw the west coast schools winning with black players.
Doesn’t the student athlete decide where they want to attend? One would hope that decision is based on their academic/athletic goals and what school best meets those needs. If it’s an HBC, they’ll go there. If not, they’ll go somewhere else. Freedom of choice seems like a good thing to me.
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Old Today, 10:53 AM
 
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I don’t know that it would work out the way people are envisioning. I don’t know exactly how funding works for university athletics but I’m pretty sure it follows the university, not the athlete. Universities that have more money can recruit better athletes and then secure even more funding. These universities also have name recognition and contacts and coaches that help athletes gain recognition. If black there’s go to lesser known schools- that doesn’t automatically mean these schools will be lifted up. There will always be excellent athletes willing to take the open opportunity.
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Old Today, 10:57 AM
 
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I agree with you, TreasureFinder. College athletes in successful athletic programs - like University of Texas football - make untold profits for their universities, and their coaches are paid handsomely for it. Meanwhile, the athletes aren't allowed to benefit, at all. A recent (like maybe 4 years ago) article detailed the lives these men live, and it's spartan. Meanwhile, they're often injured for life during their 4 years serving the athletic department, and they have zero to show for it since not that many are picked up by professional teams.

I think deciding to pick up their marbles and go home might be the smartest move they could make. Game on, as they say.
Don’t they have an education to show for it? Isn’t that supposed to be the reason to attend a university? Or at least it used to be.

If a kid is only attending to further their athletic career (and the one and done BB stars certainly do), they’re taking away scholarship money that could be spent on a kid who views athletics as a path to an education. I’m all for the NBA, NFL etc doing away with college attendance requirements. Let the stars go right to professional play and free up scholarship money for real student athletes.
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Old Today, 10:59 AM
 
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This doesn't seem like very sensible business advice on her part. It would probably be more effective as a political gesture to avoid selected so-called "white" colleges over state or University policies an athlete opposes. But don't throw away your future over it.
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Old Today, 11:01 AM
 
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Football and basketball generate millions for these schools with most being predominantly black. Why shouldn’t they take their resources to an HBCU?? Per the article, institutions were fine with keeping blacks out until they saw the west coast schools winning with black players.
So you are for segregation, got it.
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Old Today, 11:05 AM
 
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Occam's razr…….or maybe all races aren't inherently equal

Maybe there not.....but it's clear that anyone who believes that, without having positive proof, is a racist.
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Don’t they have an education to show for it? Isn’t that supposed to be the reason to attend a university? Or at least it used to be.

If a kid is only attending to further their athletic career (and the one and done BB stars certainly do), they’re taking away scholarship money that could be spent on a kid who views athletics as a path to an education. I’m all for the NBA, NFL etc doing away with college attendance requirements. Let the stars go right to professional play and free up scholarship money for real student athletes.
I don't know what percentage of scholarship college athletes graduate with a 4 year college degree.

I can't imagine the NFL cutting colleges out of this incredibly lucrative resource, that is basically free to the college. Offering a free ride doesn't cost the school much, at all.

This article I read followed one second tier football player, full scholarship, but he wasn't a starter. He often went to bed hungry - literally - because the dining halls closed while he was still at practice and he had no money at all for food. And that was acknowledged, so accommodations were made for athletes to have late dining hall hours. Because yes, the University agreed, these students don't have any money to go to McDonalds, yet the university is bankrolling itself off their abilities/sweat.

The thing that chapped me the very most, was when a university trademarked jersey goes on the market with a specific athlete's name on the back, the athlete gets not one penny from that sale.

I can see why the athletes would start to think they were still back on the plantation. Seems like indentured servitude.
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Old Today, 11:06 AM
 
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Doesn’t the student athlete decide where they want to attend? One would hope that decision is based on their academic/athletic goals and what school best meets those needs. If it’s an HBC, they’ll go there. If not, they’ll go somewhere else. Freedom of choice seems like a good thing to me.
No. If your the top recruit on a state you may have 3-4 (ok 6-7 but all similar options) to choose from. If your like me, I had two to choose from University of Florida and Florida State University. I’m sure other schools would take you but remember your not allowed to contact coaches and schools directly as a high school student. The NCAA bars direct contact so you have to go through your coach.

I don’t know a single high school coach who would ignore a big state school and contact a HBCU for a blue chip recruit regardless of what the student wants. High school sports is a closed system and many of those coaches would sell all their players to get a coaching job with a major University. Remember coaches have Skin in the Game too.

The days of the math teacher coaching football is gone at the big high school teams that turn out recruits. This is also why private schools do so well in high school sports, then can play a professional coach to run their entire team like my high school had. Head coach and all assistance played professional football on some level, none of them except the head coach taught classes, just showed up after school for practice
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Old Today, 11:11 AM
 
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If the races are inherently equal, then after 300 years, the only reason there wold be inequality between the races, within the same country, is due to DISCRIMINATION!!!!!!!!!



Hence, the ONLY way you can resolve an inequality is VIA DISCRIMINATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If one of your legs is broken.....you have to discriminate in favor of the broken leg for it to heal and become approximately equal with the other leg. You can't say treat both legs the same and expect the broken leg to get well.


I did not follow the link and hence have not taken the time to read the article yet. However, my first thought is that these black athletes bring in Billions (collectively) to those institutions.....while black colleges and university struggle to stay viable. Note: Any race is free to go to a HISTORICALLY black college and or University.



White people say that blacks should solve the problems of blacks......after they tell us that they never owned any slaves. Well....what the hell do you think that looks like, meaning, what do you think that would look like when blacks start helping to lift up blacks? It will LOOK LIKE DISCRIMINATION. It will be discrimination because the only way you resolve the unequal status of blacks is for someone to discriminate to favor blacks. Since whites don't want to do that.....since they never owned any slaves.....and since they don't want one red cent of their hard earned tax dollars going to help......then black people have to take the lead by discriminating to promote things black.


Any object moved from its equilibrium, by a force, will require an equal and opposite force to restore the object to equilibrium. The logic abounds. You cannot correct an imbalance by treating the imbalanced entities the same. She might be a racist.....but she might also have the solution to the problems of blacks.


Whats wrong in my logic?
lol - glad to see you are still trying to get come of my cookies because bad stuff.
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Old Today, 11:13 AM
 
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show us the 'entire threads' where conservatives clamor for black athletes to leave predominantly white schools.

your failure to do so will reveal that you lied.
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List them please, and let's review how many people called the idea out for being absurd.
Boxus, i dont recognize your profile, but Uggabugga is just playing coy.

The post was about the idea of supporting segregation , not specifically schools, so we arent going to play that narrowed scope game.

Why pretend threads about black cities and "bad" black political mayors arent racial and about segregation. All these threads about putting "black money" into black communities , so on and so forth.
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