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Old Today, 06:23 PM
 
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You mean like turn America into something like some combination of Brazil, the middle east and South Africa and an authoritarian government like china to try to hold it together?
Well yes and no we are more civilised so it will work more smoothly, as long as we give people the opportunity they can usually jump into a comfortable normal lifestyle in the United States, they will find it less likely to turn to a life of crime compared to those other countries.
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Old Today, 06:25 PM
 
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Old white people? Do you actually think that Mexicans in Mexico or the Chinese in China, etc. want their culture, demographics so changed that they lose their identities as nations?
I dont think they worry about those things as their birth rates are so high.
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Old Today, 06:26 PM
 
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We should allow 0 refugees until we first get our own homeless people cared for. We simply can not afford to take on refugees as long as our own in desperate need are being ignored.
Its not hard to do both
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Old Today, 06:28 PM
 
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Might as well bring them in and get them in our system, paying taxes, working jobs they will benefit our economy and wont be living in poverty.
We live in a first world country that is expensive to live in. These poor peasants lack the education and skills to make a liveable wage here and would have to be subsidized by the taxpayer. They would end up with tax refunds at the end of the year instead of tax liabilities as many of them also believe in large families. It would cause further overcrowding of our schools, healthcare facilities, roads and neighborhoods and further depletion of our social and natural resources. Many of them are from cultures that are not compatible with ours. In short, we don't need them here.
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Old Today, 06:30 PM
 
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Its not hard to do both
Are you for real? We can't even provide for our own poor and needy right now!
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Old Today, 06:32 PM
 
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We live in a first world country that is expensive to live in. These poor peasants lack the education and skills to make a liveable wage here and would have to be subsidized by the taxpayer. They would end up with tax refunds at the end of the year instead of tax liabilities as many of them also believe in large families. It would cause further overcrowding of our schools, healthcare facilities, roads and neighborhoods and further depletion of our social and natural resources. Many of them are from cultures that are not compatible with ours. In short, we don't need them here.
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Are you for real? We can't even provide for our own poor and needy right now!
I mean we could just budget our money better, take a big chunk out of military and put it to infrastructure and have the immigrants work the construction jobs. and than we can have nice new roads, schools and other city facilities.
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Old Today, 06:32 PM
 
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I dont think they worry about those things as their birth rates are so high.
No, they just aren't as stupid as we are in allowing in every poor beggar that crashes our shores. China and other Asian countries do not have high birth rates. They allow in very little immigration and are adamant about retaining their native cultures and demographics.
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Old Today, 06:34 PM
 
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Well yes and no we are more civilised so it will work more smoothly, as long as we give people the opportunity they can usually jump into a comfortable normal lifestyle in the United States, they will find it less likely to turn to a life of crime compared to those other countries.
You can't civilize the less civilized world populations. They beat you down with stupidity and backwardness down to their level.
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Old Today, 06:35 PM
 
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I mean we could just budget our money better, take a big chunk out of military and put it to infrastructure and have the immigrants work the construction jobs. and than we can have nice new roads, schools and other city facilities.
Our own citizens should get those jobs not immigrants or asylum seekers. The latter don't have the skills for those jobs anyway. Illegals aliens have already taken most construction jobs and reduced wages for Americans.
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Old Today, 06:44 PM
 
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Not only refugees. 2018 about 1000 visas denied. Now over 37,000. Green card denials might also have skyrocketed- but too early to give the new numbers for 2019 with mrTs new rules. What is his real vision?
To keep future deadbeats out.
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