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Old 09-17-2019, 09:59 AM
 
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So shaming doesn't seem to work, but IF you had to start dating, trying to get laid would be a good motivator. That's pretty common.


I'm still against the concept of "shaming" and I think a lot of people use "health related" as an excuse to be jerks.

I could care less if a commercial features someone on the heavier side.
Obviously bullying is bad, but so can acceptance be.

Having larger chairs at the Dr. office so "everyone" can sit comfortably , renaming clothing sizes to make them feel better (look, I fit in a "jumbo petite" ) , it isn't helping.
I try to dress nicely, and for pants/jeans it isn't hard to find size 38 waists. Now trying to find stylish 3xl shirts is tough, so that is my motivator to lose weight.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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Obviously bullying is bad, but so can acceptance be.

Having larger chairs at the Dr. office so "everyone" can sit comfortably , renaming clothing sizes to make them feel better (look, I fit in a "jumbo petite" ) , it isn't helping.
I try to dress nicely, and for pants/jeans it isn't hard to find size 38 waists. Now trying to find stylish 3xl shirts is tough, so that is my motivator to lose weight.

I've never seen any of those examples. Chairs are normal size at my doctors, and I could care less what my "size" is called. Petite is a designation in woman's close relating to HEIGHT, not size.

My clothes sizes are all over the place depending on if it's Juniors or Misses. I'm a size 5 in juniors, a size 4 outside of that. Large tops in Juniors, small or medium elsewhere. Heck, I still have a pair of jeans in a 0 that fit. I don't see much vanity sizing.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:08 AM
 
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I've never seen any of those examples. Chairs are normal size at my doctors, and I could care less what my "size" is called. Petite is a designation in woman's close relating to HEIGHT, not size.

My clothes sizes are all over the place depending on if it's Juniors or Misses. I'm a size 5 in juniors, a size 4 outside of that. Large tops in Juniors, small or medium elsewhere. Heck, I still have a pair of jeans in a 0 that fit. I don't see much vanity sizing.
Seriously ? I see it in mens clothing all the time. Shirts come in different fits, sport jackets etc.

"Executive fit" WTF does that mean ? Is it for the successful, lobster 5 martini lunch guys that skip out on the gym or just successful guys ?

The link states "portly suits" ...what does that tell you ?

https://www.menswearhouse.com/c/portly-suits
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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Yes we would all rather ad companies use either child models posing as adults or anorexic models and leave the fat people (who are actually buying their product) alone.
It doesn't matter either way - food advertising is about promoting over eating, and that isn't going to change anytime soon.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:16 AM
 
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Seriously ? I see it in mens clothing all the time. Shirts come in different fits, sport jackets etc.

"Executive fit" WTF does that mean ? Is it for the successful, lobster 5 martini lunch guys that skip out on the gym or just successful guys ?

The link states "portly suits" ...what does that tell you ?

https://www.menswearhouse.com/c/portly-suits

Tells me it is a suit that will fit fat men?

The words describe the TYPE of it. Whether it's loose in the middle or fitted, broader in the shoulders and that type of stuff.

Just like us, BF jeans is a loose cut, curvy is for women with a booty... etc. It gives you a guideline on what the cut is.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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Tells me it is a suit that will fit fat men?

The words describe the TYPE of it. Whether it's loose in the middle or fitted, broader in the shoulders and that type of stuff.

Just like us, BF jeans is a loose cut, curvy is for women with a booty... etc. It gives you a guideline on what the cut is.
So why isn't it marketed as portly instead of executive ? Its all good, if you don't see it you never will. There are plenty of articles about this topic that prove it is being done.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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So why isn't it marketed as portly instead of executive ? Its all good, if you don't see it you never will. There are plenty of articles about this topic that prove it is being done.
Primarily because I could care less what sizing label is assigned to my clothes. It stands to reason that they found marketing Fat Guy Cut to be ineffective.
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Old 09-17-2019, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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It doesn't matter either way - food advertising is about promoting over eating, and that isn't going to change anytime soon.
I agree but its not just food advertising. So why are peoples nickers in a bunch over fat models in ads?
I think the unobtainable (child passed of as an adult and anorexic models) does more harm than a fat model especially for young girls. Setting the false and unhealthy and unnatural body image as a standard and shaming those who can't obtain it can create depression, anxiety, self-loathing, eating disorders and even suicidal thoughts.
What harm does a fat model do. Let fat people know they are people too, maybe take a look at themselves and decide they dont want to look like that.
Until our society changes the crap processed foods, use of sugars and fats and even the toxic wheat we use we wont see changes in this obesity epidemic.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Nice, France
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Nice, France
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What kind of person thinks fat shaming is a good idea?
Well, French people tend to do that. Not shaming when someone is already overweight of course, that would be cruel, but taken in the womb.

Over less than 10 pounds, people tell each others, even a simple stranger in the street.
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