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Old 09-09-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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One we are not lower animals and you can not compare any particular lower animals behavior to human behavior. How many human men you know that killed their step children. How many women eat their babies?

if men will not marry promiscuous women explain why very few women are virgins when they marry.
While your at it explain basis of why you believe there is a biological component that drives men to have sex with virgins. Prostitution is as old as the bible. Men have never, generally, given a rip that a woman has had multiple sexual partners. To the contrary sexual urges are driven by hormones. We all know those aren't discriminating.

Marriage was to unite families and strengthen those bonds to increase wealth and virgin test was to insure paternity for inheritance. This goes back to the middle ages.

And while you may know women who dont do as much house work as women "in past ages" that does not change the fact that all studies/interviews show women do most of the housework and childcare as well as work outside the home, or that actual data shows women are the ones drop out of the workforce to care for children or that the fact that studies show inequality in domestic responsibilities is a contributing factor to divorce.
You think they do not but they do. I do not know a single man boasting the high odometer numbers of his wife, but they are ok padding their numbers. Women are in the driver seat for the past 100 years. Women demand, men comply. The fact that men accepted pre and sometimes post marital female promiscuity and step children just say that men are higher order animals that can consciously suppress their biological instinct in order to secure an access to a female setting the rules. Female demands depend on economic and technological circumstances but human biology is much slower than that. Men do care both about female promiscuity and not having step children. Men are just dupes since they built society that trashed their genuine preferences. Now they have no choice but to accept it fake "no care the world" or to walk out. Walking out is not easy due to hormonal pressures.

 
Old 09-09-2019, 02:00 PM
 
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Really?
You: Recent study of North Dakota oil boom showed that a spike in male' income lead to a spite of out of wedlock births and marriage stagnation or decline.
You: Study shows that baby boom was driven by unmarried women.

Twice there you claimed the spike in male's income led to a spike in out of wedlock births.

Need reminded that average child support is ~$400/month. A woman is better off working and earning 2500/month and enjoying life than getting that 400$, food stamps and being responsible for a child 24/7, diapers, puke, snot, crying, etc. for 18+ years.
There is no data on the relationship status of those unmarried births either. Stats do show young people are forgoing legal marriage but are cohabiting as a married couple.
And what better options would a unemployed single mother have if men are biologically repelled by non virgins and other men's progeny?
There was a spike in unwed and wed births, not just unwed births. You are right. Men gave up a lot, but even modern improved males do not want to be involved with females having children by different fathers. So assuming an optionless single mother has made another kid with a roughneck one could expect a marriage spike in ND. Once that second unmarried father is gone, a single mother is 95% out of relationship options other than hook ups or relationships sorta with some genuinely scary characters (as it was told before a penniless man has no chance on cohabitation with a female, but penniless abusive scary men find women providers all the time).
 
Old 09-09-2019, 02:03 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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There was a spike in unwed and wed births, not just unwed births. You are right. Men gave up a lot, but even modern improved males do not want to be involved with females having children by different fathers. So assuming an optionless single mother has made another kid with a roughneck one could expect a marriage spike in ND. Once that second unmarried father is gone, a single mother is 95% out of relationship options other than hook ups or relationships sorta with some genuinely scary characters (as it was told before a penniless man has no chance on cohabitation with a female, but penniless abusive scary men find women providers all the time).
And according to the study - women don't want to be involved with unemployed meth heads.
 
Old 09-09-2019, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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There is not unequal opportunity. If its an option....its an opportunity. I have the option and opportunity to become President of the United States. In other words, its POSSIBLE. Possibilities are open to all Americans.....and this is what people often call "Opportunity" and since there is no law limiting possibilities according to race, any longer,....things are said to be of "equal opportunity". Equal possibilities, however, are not equal probabilities. Just because its possible for me to run for president does not mean that its probable that I could ever become president......despite the "opportunity" to run for it.



How long does it take a leg to heal from a fracture? Does it vary by race with any significance? If black people have not recovered from the impact of centuries of racism yet, despite equal opportunity under the law, that means that it obviously takes more time than the time since equal opportunity under the law manifested. How would I know how long it should take? All I know is that it has not taken place and there is no group who has set the baseline of recovery in the same time and space, from racial oppression.
What about Asian Americans, Irish Americans, women. Would you say those groups are at a racial, cultural or gender disadvantage today because those groups were once also oppressed?
 
Old 09-09-2019, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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There was a spike in unwed and wed births, not just unwed births. You are right. Men gave up a lot, but even modern improved males do not want to be involved with females having children by different fathers. So assuming an optionless single mother has made another kid with a roughneck one could expect a marriage spike in ND. Once that second unmarried father is gone, a single mother is 95% out of relationship options other than hook ups or relationships sorta with some genuinely scary characters (as it was told before a penniless man has no chance on cohabitation with a female, but penniless abusive scary men find women providers all the time).
What "a lot" did men give up?
Funny how we have so many blended families these days, second, third marriages with kids on both sides from previous marriages/relationships you still want to believe men do not want marriage/relationships with women who have children. At least 40% of marriages in the US are remarriages with stepchildren.

Yes there are dysfunctional relationships both men and women cohabit with deadbeat partners that abuse them, cheat, do drugs, etc. but you keep bringing up the outliers not the normal average relationships.
 
Old 09-09-2019, 02:44 PM
 
Location: UK
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It's all good unless hubby dies young or runs off with some sweet young thing in his fifties leaving his unskilled wife to fend for herself at some low end, entry level job with not enough time left to play catch up.
Yup. I've also come across many women in my work who are in bad marriages but can't leave because they don't have enough money to and have no skillset. The answer is to have your own money and a **** off fund.
 
Old 09-09-2019, 02:53 PM
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Location: Boulder, CO
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Why would you test the boolean at all and display the text outside of the first if. You should display the text right after assigning true to the boolean.

Missing a double-quote too.


Not everyone should be coding.
 
Old 09-09-2019, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Middle of the ocean
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Looking at the world through the prism of earning access to female anatomy makes you what? A conditioned slave with a dong attached at most, sorry. Carry on. Do not whine when you'll understand what I am talking about.


At the end of the day, the only question that really matters is "are you happy", now you may be happy, but you sure don't sound happy.
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Old 09-09-2019, 03:05 PM
 
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I have both, but she one in the same, unless you count my dogs.
LOL. I have a harem of men, husband, 2 male dogs and the youngest manlet.
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Old 09-09-2019, 03:21 PM
 
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That's a silly analogy, a woman who wants to marry a "prince charming" would have to "earn access" as well; the idea that someone like Brad Pitt would marry a 40 year old woman who still watches Twilight movies is just as absurd.

And what's your favorite vice? Porn, video games, fast food et cetera? If you want to be a slave to that as well, it would be the same thing. Your worldview is basically nihilism.
Not absurd enough if you realize that romance books industry catering to over the hill, overweight audience mercilessly exploits a theme of an unremarkable woman having a passionate affair with a remarkable man. But folk fairy tales exploited that longing way before that except that there were no fairy tales with 45 y.o. fair maiden waiting to be rescued from mundane.

In the past 100+ years average men gave up on so many relationship expectations, while average women build up their expectations to the point of not caring about average male expectations. That's nihilism right there. I am not talking Brad Pitts here. But Brad Pitts of the world do not do that great either. It almost hurts reading about their divorce settlements. My the only major vice is posting on this forum when I procrastinate, and I do a lot of that these past few past weeks.
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