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Old 09-07-2019, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
Squelching speech on the basis of skin color? It's hard to think of a better example that fits the definition of "racism."

I don't care what you call it. If you are not black you have no say in who our leaders are or should be. It's totally irrelevant if an outsider feels a black leader is good or bad. In fact, relative to the traditional opposition demographic for blacks, whether they they think blacks are good or bad is inversely related to whether they are actually good or bad for blacks.

Old 09-07-2019, 07:35 PM
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I wish there were great leaders of any color.
Old 09-07-2019, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by travis t View Post
We've got Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Those are the two generally recognized as 'black leaders' by the MSM.
They are black commentators these days.

Jesse Jackson hasn't "led" anything in decades.
Old 09-07-2019, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tillman7 View Post
This is 2019, their is no need for black leaders, blacks don't need anyone to tell them who to vote for!
Which is why television has to drag up people from the 60s.
Old 09-07-2019, 09:29 PM
Location: Japan
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Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk View Post
Kind of the other way around. It was W.E.B. DuBois who spoke of the "talented tenth." Washington spoke more of a strategy for the other 90%.

But both men were correct and not really in conflict (although, like today, other political forces placed them into conflict).

Like an axe depend on a heavy head behind the sharpened blade to cut into dense wood, the black American community needed and still needs the sharp "talented tenth" as the cutting edge with the weight of a trained, industrial mass pushing it forward.
Unfortunately, outside of that talented tenth, there are few who are capable of becoming trained and industrial, not enough to form any mass.
Old Yesterday, 03:12 AM
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Why would I care who is, or isn't, the great black leader?

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Old Yesterday, 08:00 AM
Location: WY
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Originally Posted by Ralph_Kirk View Post

Just read a book, huh?

You know, Malcolm X said the same thing.

I don't know if you've noticed, but most black Americans are doing fine.
That's not the liberal party line. Not even close.
Old Yesterday, 08:09 AM
Location: Places you dream of
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Originally Posted by MPowering1 View Post
I wish there were great leaders of any color.
Color should have no bearing in who the leader is . May the best person who can abide by the constitution, play well with others fairly, and have the desire to lead our country to a better place, regardless of anything of anything else, is what we need.
Old Yesterday, 08:49 AM
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He was ridiculed for his accomodationist strategy, but he was secretly funding civil right lawsuits. He was in effect working undercover contrary to his own public philosophy of black progress. Most people today who are working toward social progress in America are doing this.
Old Yesterday, 08:58 AM
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Remember Booker T lived in the segregated south where blacks were below whites and where blacks could be lynched. He did incredible things in his circumstances, but I think saying modern African-American leaders should be like him is a flawed premise; black people don't have to, and shouldn't have to, fear being too "uppity". In fact, look at his contemporaries in Chicago; they were more radical because they could be. If Booker T was too "uppity" he'd be lynched.

TheGoodTheBadTheUgly, are you aware of the history behind the party switch of the 1960s? After Lyndon B. Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act, Southern Whites who were anti-black got mad at the entire Democrat Party, and Republican Party chose the "Southern Strategy" so they could take these disaffected conservative whites.

In fact there were blacks who tried to convince more blacks to join the Republicans - think Tony Brown in the 1990s. If Republican leaders explicitly kicked out/banned the "dog whistle" anti-black folks and left them with no viable major political party at all, they could attract the conservative blacks who dislike socially liberal aspects of the Democrats. Instead the Republicans doubled-down on keeping white racists, so the blacks won't switch parties.

The question and premise of the thread, and OP's conclusion on the choices of African-Americans' political party, in a sense is flawed.

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly View Post
The man was brilliant ahead his of time. Believed blacks could achieve equality by being self reliant. And he was right because in the end no matter what color you are “Money Talks”. Unfortunately history shows the black community chose a different path by following a certain party and leaders like the community agitator. I wonder what Washington would have thought if he could have seen the future.

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