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Old Yesterday, 09:00 AM
 
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"Color" is an Americanism anyway. Language and ethnicity DO truly define people, and having diversity in those fields help bring all factions of a society together.

Black people in the US though do have their own common informal language- AAVE (Ebonics) which is a legitimate "language" as per people who study language (linguists).

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Color should have no bearing in who the leader is . May the best person who can abide by the constitution, play well with others fairly, and have the desire to lead our country to a better place, regardless of anything of anything else, is what we need.

 
Old Yesterday, 06:50 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Where are the great Hispanic, Asian, Native American and Multiracial leaders and why aren't white folks looking for them?
 
Old Yesterday, 07:12 PM
 
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The man was brilliant ahead his of time. Believed blacks could achieve equality by being self reliant. And he was right because in the end no matter what color you are “Money Talks”. Unfortunately history shows the black community chose a different path by following a certain party and leaders like the community agitator. I wonder what Washington would have thought if he could have seen the future.



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Well, you don't have a say who Black leaders are.
 
Old Yesterday, 07:13 PM
 
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Where are the great Hispanic, Asian, Native American and Multiracial leaders and why aren't white folks looking for them?
For the same reason there are people obsessing about who Blacks vote for. It is about "why can't Blacks do what we want them to do"?
 
Old Yesterday, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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quelching speech on the basis of skin color? It's hard to think of a better example that fits the definition of "racism."
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I don't care what you call it. If you are not black you have no say in who our leaders are or should be. It's totally irrelevant if an outsider feels a black leader is good or bad. In fact, relative to the traditional opposition demographic for blacks, whether they they think blacks are good or bad is inversely related to whether they are actually good or bad for blacks.

It's not a question of what I call it. It's what it actually is: pure and simple racism. If what I say about an Al Sharpton is 'totally irrelevant' simply due to my skin tone, it's no different than a Sam Rayburn saying you can't vote for US President due to your skin tone.

As for the last sentence of your post...what does that even mean?
 
Old Yesterday, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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The leaders you get are a combination of the people who follow them and the moneyed and powerful people behind the scenes who fund them, pick them, and work behind the scenes.

A great example is Obama. How does a first term senator become POTUS? Answer: Very powerful and rich people.
 
Old Yesterday, 07:31 PM
 
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Just to intervene in the discussion a little it seems like there is some level of disconnection as to what this thread is about. Some seem to be addressing leaders who happen to be black while others are talking about leaders of the black community itself.
 
Old Yesterday, 07:45 PM
 
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There are some prominent black 'leaders' out there and have been for years. I like people like Herman Cain, Allen West, David Clarke, Candace Owens...I would take any of them as my leader any day.......
 
Old Yesterday, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Are you black? If not...you have no skin in the game.
Yeah, let's look at some corollaries to this. Not white? Then you can't criticize David Duke or Richard Spencer. Not Jewish--you can't say a word about Israel. Not Christian? Can't discuss the Bible. And so forth.

Reductio Ad Absurdum.
 
Old Yesterday, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I wonder if one reason you like him is that I gather he was a lower-key black leader who didn't directly threaten the status quo - he was not loudly demanding voting rights, for instance.
Exactly.

The problem or paradox was that Washington's mantra of black self-improvement (in the context of a very limited level of participation in society that was allowed to black people at the time) - was actually met with white hostility to black self-determination and indepedence.

Such as destroying relatively well off black communities in Rosewood, Florida, and Tulsa, Oklahoma in the 1920s.
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