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Old 09-08-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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Now its my turn to be completely confused. I only ever ask questions with the purest of intentions.

Its simple, if a baby does not consent how can a parent lock them in a crib, lift them up, or bath them without violating their autonomous rights?
I had an agenda when starting this thread, which is a fair point to consider and which I revealed when asked. You have been asking honest questions.

Most of the other responses in this thread save a couple have been lame or in bad faith. I doubt No_Recess is playing it straight, as if he ever does. Just a mostly disappointing showing by the libertarian crew at C-D.
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Old 09-08-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I had an agenda when starting this thread, which is a fair point to consider and which I revealed when asked. You have been asking honest questions.

Most of the other responses in this thread save a couple have been lame or in bad faith. I doubt No_Recess is playing it straight, as if he ever does. Just a mostly disappointing showing by the libertarian crew at C-D.
Its fine if he doesn't want to answer me, that's his right.

But I'm surprised when he says he doesn't understand when the question is incredibly straightforward and simply. Same thing happen on the Friedrich Hayek thread.
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Old 09-08-2019, 12:58 PM
 
Location: SM
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Now its my turn to be completely confused. I only ever ask questions with the purest of intentions.
I mocked you because my principles aren't situational. They're static hence the term "principle". Regardless if I have a child or not won't change my answer. If you had a principle you would understand this.

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Its simple, if a baby does not consent how can a parent lock them in a crib, lift them up, or bath them without violating their autonomous rights?
Who says it's a violation? I want you to think very hard before you name the party alleging that. It's going to make all the difference in the world.
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Old 09-08-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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I had an agenda when starting this thread, which is a fair point to consider and which I revealed when asked. You have been asking honest questions.

Most of the other responses in this thread save a couple have been lame or in bad faith. I doubt No_Recess is playing it straight, as if he ever does. Just a mostly disappointing showing by the libertarian crew at C-D.
Re-ask your question if you'd like. I'll walk you through it now.
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:07 PM
 
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Its fine if he doesn't want to answer me, that's his right.

But I'm surprised when he says he doesn't understand when the question is incredibly straightforward and simply. Same thing happen on the Friedrich Hayek thread.
I'm not your slave.
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I mocked you because my principles aren't situational. They're static hence the term "principle". Regardless if I have a child or not won't change my answer. If you had a principle you would understand this.



Who says it's a violation? I want you to think very hard before you name the party alleging that. It's going to make all the difference in the world.
The point of the question was trying to rephrase my original point so you would answer. I agree it doesn't matter if its your child or not.

Anyways why wouldn't it be a violation. If you take some one and force them behind bars/lock them up, that is an act of aggression. But when its done to a baby you call it 'charity'.

I'm asking for consistency, if babies of autonomous rights how can a parent control/raise them without their consent?
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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I'm not your slave.
That's pretty much what I said in the post your responding to.
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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The point of the question was trying to rephrase my original point so you would answer. I agree it doesn't matter if its your child or not.

Anyways why wouldn't it be a violation. If you take some one and force them behind bars/lock them up, that is an act of aggression. But when its done to a baby you call it 'charity'.

I'm asking for consistency, if babies of autonomous rights how can a parent control/raise them without their consent?
Who is making the claim that it's a violation? I'll wait until you answer.
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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Who is making the claim that it's a violation? I'll wait until you answer.
Tell me why its not then. If a human is forcible locked in a cage, that's an act of aggression.

Why do you have different standards for adults and babies when autonomy is universal (by your own standards).
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Old 09-08-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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Tell me why its not then. If a human is forcible locked in a cage, that's an act of aggression.

Why do you have different standards for adults and babies when autonomy is universal (by your own standards).
I can't help you if you can't name the individual claiming there was a violation.
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