Why are Conservatives Recommending Dave Chappelle's Sticks and Stones show? (biased, carry)
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Like, really, people think this guy is actually funny? I seen people try to compare him to George Carlin, and sorry, but George Carlin was genuinely funny and touched on real issues.
Oh, I can play this game.
You're only criticizing Chapelle because you're racist.
I think context is the point. In a comedy routine, it's humor. In another context, it's fighting words. For example, I like Jim Jeffries but if some guy at work uses the C word we have a problem and I'll crawl up his ass.
I don't necessarily think it's context in this situation.
I watched a little bit of it.
Sometimes it takes a comedian to point out our irreconcilable positions. I never saw the abortion/abandon contradiction, but Chapelle did. And he did us a favor when he found it.
I guess I don't understand Chappelle on this particular bit. It's funny when he says the N word - but not so funny if I say it. Same with F*****.
I see that as different sides of the same coin.
He never says the n-word as a joke. He just talks about it. The joke was that he said f***** and the censors said he couldn’t say that because he’s not that. He said well y’all let me say n*****, but I’m not a n***** either.
I don't necessarily think it's context in this situation.
Context could include who is saying it and how the listener feels about that person/group/whatever.
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Originally Posted by katygirl68
He never says the n-word as a joke. He just talks about it. The joke was that he said f***** and the censors said he couldn’t say that because he’s not that. He said well y’all let me say n*****, but I’m not a n***** either.
That was a sick burn on whoever said he couldn't say F****** She backhandedly called him a N******** and he called her out.
Watch it and see. I don't think they're being hypocritical. They seem to think it supports men's right to walk away from the child. Here is the abortion skit:
No they don’t think it supports walking away from the child. The entire joke is if she has the right to choose to kill a baby, then he should have the right to abandon it. And here’s why I think a lot of conservatives like it, because Dave then says, and if I’m wrong then maybe we’re all wrong. Think about that.
They interpret that to mean he is saying both are wrong. I’m not so sure about that. I think he means it’s complicated. He doesn’t want abortion outlawed, but there are definitely legitimate debates about it from different sides.
No they don’t think it supports walking away from the child. The entire joke is if she has the right to choose to kill a baby, then he should have the right to abandon it. And here’s why I think a lot of conservatives like it, because Dave then says, and if I’m wrong then maybe we’re all wrong. Think about that.
They interpret that to mean he is saying both are wrong. I’m not so sure about that. I think he means it’s complicated. He doesn’t want abortion outlawed, but there are definitely legitimate debates about it from different sides.
To someone who thinks abortion is murder it probably looks like he's pointing out a flaw in my thinking as a pro-choice person. To a pro-choice person, it looks like he is pointing out a flaw in the pro-life argument. So it's going to lead us to have this discussion. It works from multiple angles which makes it pure genius and why I believe he has achieved Carlin status.
No they don’t think it supports walking away from the child. The entire joke is if she has the right to choose to kill a baby, then he should have the right to abandon it. And here’s why I think a lot of conservatives like it, because Dave then says, and if I’m wrong then maybe we’re all wrong. Think about that.
They interpret that to mean he is saying both are wrong. I’m not so sure about that. I think he means it’s complicated. He doesn’t want abortion outlawed, but there are definitely legitimate debates about it from different sides.
From a purely logical standpoint, the choice to have a child is completely within the control of the mother. The father, if you were to respect their choice, would then be allowed to choose whether to engage in that rearing or to just bow-out but that is not reality.
It is complicated but it does raise some degree of hypocrisy in that *choice* to have a kid is one-sided.
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