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Old 09-09-2019, 08:47 PM
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Firing employees because they believe in science, nothing new with this administration.

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Your absolutely correct.....NOTHING NEW WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION.

Every administration puts restrictions on civil service employees on what they can say to the media. Remember all executive branch employees WORK FOR THE PRESIDENT.

The worst administration was Clinton and the Spotted Owl issue. I was involved in that one. The Clinton Administration "muzzeled" the scientist that disagreed with Administration policy. They oversaw the selection of mid-level Forest Service positions to make sure that promoted employees followed Clinton Administration policy.

Not sure what is going on today with Trump, but the Democrats have always been more serious about making sure civil service employees toed the "company line".

In the end, though, as a civil service employee you work for the President. Quit or follow Administration policy....be it Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump.
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Old 09-09-2019, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Your absolutely correct.....NOTHING NEW WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION.

Every administration puts restrictions on civil service employees on what they can say to the media. Remember all executive branch employees WORK FOR THE PRESIDENT.

The worst administration was Clinton and the Spotted Owl issue. I was involved in that one. The Clinton Administration "muzzeled" the scientist that disagreed with Administration policy. They oversaw the selection of mid-level Forest Service positions to make sure that promoted employees followed Clinton Administration policy.

Not sure what is going on today with Trump, but the Democrats have always been more serious about making sure civil service employees toed the "company line".

In the end, though, as a civil service employee you work for the President. Quit or follow Administration policy....be it Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump.
"But Clinton...!!!"
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:10 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Originally Posted by 509 View Post
Your absolutely correct.....NOTHING NEW WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION.

Every administration puts restrictions on civil service employees on what they can say to the media. Remember all executive branch employees WORK FOR THE PRESIDENT.

The worst administration was Clinton and the Spotted Owl issue. I was involved in that one. The Clinton Administration "muzzeled" the scientist that disagreed with Administration policy. They oversaw the selection of mid-level Forest Service positions to make sure that promoted employees followed Clinton Administration policy.

Not sure what is going on today with Trump, but the Democrats have always been more serious about making sure civil service employees toed the "company line".

In the end, though, as a civil service employee you work for the President. Quit or follow Administration policy....be it Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump.
Civil service employees work for the American people.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:16 PM
 
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Amazing how unsurprised one can be.
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Old 09-09-2019, 10:46 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Your absolutely correct.....NOTHING NEW WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION.

Every administration puts restrictions on civil service employees on what they can say to the media. Remember all executive branch employees WORK FOR THE PRESIDENT.

The worst administration was Clinton and the Spotted Owl issue. I was involved in that one. The Clinton Administration "muzzeled" the scientist that disagreed with Administration policy. They oversaw the selection of mid-level Forest Service positions to make sure that promoted employees followed Clinton Administration policy.

Not sure what is going on today with Trump, but the Democrats have always been more serious about making sure civil service employees toed the "company line".

In the end, though, as a civil service employee you work for the President. Quit or follow Administration policy....be it Clinton, Bush, Obama or Trump.
Wrong!

The ONLY people who "work for the President" are those the PRESIDENT HIRES. Those folks he can fire at will and must do the Administrations' will or suffer the consequences. All those below that level work for the American People and can only be fired by their immediate superiors and ONLY FOR JUST CAUSE.
Disagreeing with the President is NOT "just cause".

Ken
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Old Yesterday, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Southeastern North Carolina
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Now, added to the anxiety of waiting for the arrival of a hurricane, checking NWS updates every few hours, wondering if I should stay home or evacuate, I've got to wonder if the forecasts are real, or if they've been altered to protect the fragile ego of Commander Combover.

Awesome! Thanks, Trump. /s
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Old Yesterday, 04:29 AM
 
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Now, added to the anxiety of waiting for the arrival of a hurricane, checking NWS updates every few hours, wondering if I should stay home or evacuate, I've got to wonder if the forecasts are real, or if they've been altered to protect the fragile ego of Commander Combover.

Awesome! Thanks, Trump. /s
Seriously, you expect us to believe that the bolded has you worried.

I live in FL, I'm not in the least worried. No forecasts were altered due to Trump and I seriously doubt any will be in the future.

If you believe they will be, you have more serious problems than what's in the forecast.
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Old Yesterday, 05:07 AM
 
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King Trump must be appeased at all costs. We have a narcissistic president who cannot stand being wrong. Since Trump has been in office he as told over 12,000 lies. Trump is the liar and chief. Trump is also the target of all comedians. When one did a stand-up Trump didn't like he had her put on the no-fly list making it impossible for her to work.

Trump visualizes himself as an emperor and not a president. Trump's yes-men/women treat him with the rule of "the king's new clothes." World leaders mock Trump and treat him as the spoiled child in the room. Yet Trump still has some supporters most of whom are white nationalists. Trump is a Hitler wannabe.

Trump says, "I'm a very stable genius." As we have clearly seen Trump is neither. When Trump doesn't have a teleprompter in front of him or and earbud his speech sounds like a typical alzheimer patient in a severely demented state. Trump wouldn't last 30 seconds on a show like Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader. Not only is Trump misinformed and uneducated on most subjects as a narcissist he is compelled to lie to defend his stupidity.

The greatest threat to the US is Donald Trump.
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Old Yesterday, 05:26 AM
 
Location: Southeastern North Carolina
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Seriously, you expect us to believe that the bolded has you worried.

I live in FL, I'm not in the least worried. No forecasts were altered due to Trump and I seriously doubt any will be in the future.

If you believe they will be, you have more serious problems than what's in the forecast.
Are you going to be all over this thread too, posting 200+ times in defense of Dear Leader's absurd behavior? I'd say that you also have a serious problem: Trump Sycophancy Disorder.
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Old Yesterday, 05:39 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Pathetic administration. Don't bow down to your supreme leader, you're fired.
Leave Obama out of this!


recall all the scientists fired for having an issue with human caused climate change and the ability of the government to reverse it.


Dec 21, 2016 ∑ Report: Obama Admin Fires Scientist for Being Too Forthright With Congress ... administrationís line regarding climate science


Dec 20, 2016 ∑ The Obama administration fired a scientist, intimidated staff at the Department of Energy, and allegedly ordered officials to obstruct Congress Ė all in order to push its climate change agenda, a House committee report asserted.


boston meteorologist fired for having skeptical view of Ďglobal warmingí


Jun 21, 2012 ∑ Nicholas Drapela, an Oregon State University faculty member and vocal critic of climate change, was fired without explanation from his job,


Jun 15, 2014 ∑ Climate Change Editorial Gets Professor Fired From Think Tank.


Dec 31, 2016 ∑ In the world of climate science, the skeptics are coming in from the cold. Researchers who see global warming as something less than a planet-ending calamity believe the incoming Trump administration may allow their views to be developed and heard. This didnít happen under the Obama administration, which denied that a debate even existed.


49 former NASA scientists and astronauts sent a letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden last week admonishing the agency for it's role in advocating a high degree of certainty that man-made CO2 is a major cause of climate change while neglecting empirical evidence that calls the theory into question.


As former NASA employees, we feel that NASA's advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers is inappropriate.
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