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Old 09-10-2019, 04:16 PM
 
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Mormon Fundamentalists.

BIG time. 10,000 or so...maybe more

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...mpound-788509/

Child marriage, many wives to one man....vastly younger than him, of course.
Young men who are competition sent off the plantation. Education withheld. Lots more....

Should that be legal? They are building in TX, UT, CO, SD and many other places. They do not believe in the US Government they live under....not at all.





Wow. 10000 Mormon fundamentalists. What a crisis for western civilization.


Meanwhile they're trucking over regressives from third world cultures by the tens of millions into the west, who then proceed to make demands on the local cultures as their numbers grow.

Honestly, multi-cultural leftists are short sighted idiots. There is no "multicultural plurality" in Islam. No gay rights, no women's lib. "The more hijabs in the streets, the less freedom in the sheets" is a rule. And by all accounts the Islam presenting itself in Europe is getting more and more conservative. With the religion starting to flex its muscle because it has two covers for its predatory nature: clueless liberals and fear of the locale populace of being blown up or mowed down by trucks for daring to speak out against the religion or how utterly stupid it is. (Compare to how NOBODY outside the FLDS has any problem making fun of or criticizing them for being absolute loons).


But go on. Tell us how the Mormons or the Amish are a threat to open and free society in the west.


Americans of sound mind should send money to populist orgs and politicians in Europe willing to take on this cancer. And Europeans are slowly waking up to the threat. Hopefully it won't be too late.
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Old 09-10-2019, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's too much of a can of worms when you have such an extreme feminist agenda. Consent has to be assumed during marriage. If a woman is not happy with her husband and their sex life, then she should separate.
With all due respect, you appear to know little to nothing about abused women who are married to bullies who threaten to kill her and/or the kids if she leaves. Emotional abuse is as harmful as physical.

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Of course not. As I said from the top we should go to patriarchy in the Anglo sense.
Patriarchy has been tried here for quite some time and it does not work in modern day America. It is irrelevant basically. There is no reason for a patriarchy--we are no longer hunters and gatherers and in many families, the wife is the breadwinner because she has a better job.

IMHO, there appears to generally be 3 types of marriages. The one where a husband bullies his wife and family and they all walk around on eggshells so the bully does not get upset, the one where the wife is in charge and makes the decisions, and the one where the husband and wife are equal partners and make decisions together and honestly like each other.

Which one of those couples/families do you think are the happiest? My guess is the equal partners. This obsession with patriarchy and masculinity seems to be an American male thing. In other comparable countries and cultures, men seem to have a lot more confidence in their 'masculinity' and aren't as intimidated by women - even in those cultures with the 'machismo' thing. They just don't seem personally threatened or intimidated by women with power, as many American males appear to be.

America is the only modern western country that has never had a female leader. Even Pakistan has had one. Certain American males seem very threatened by it.

No, my friend, we are heading in the direction of equality, not patriarchy. I would bet on it. It is evolution. We don't need physical strength for much these days, and certainly not to survive or thrive--we need knowledge and men do not have a lock on that. In fact, women are going to college and becoming educated at a much higher rate than men.

Just being able to swing a hammer or shovel is not needed to thrive in a modern society. Women who are educated and have a good career can pay people to do the heavy lifting.

You also keep mentioning the "extremist feminist agenda." Could you please objectively describe what exactly that 'agenda' is with specific examples (real ones)?
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Old 09-10-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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Which one of those couples/families do you think are the happiest? My guess is the equal partners. This obsession with patriarchy and masculinity seems to be an American male thing. In other comparable countries and cultures, men seem to have a lot more confidence in their 'masculinity' and aren't as intimidated by women - even in those cultures with the 'machismo' thing. They just don't seem personally threatened or intimidated by women with power, as many American males appear to be.

America is the only modern western country that has never had a female leader. Even Pakistan has had one. Certain American males seem very threatened by it.



I know you're not trying to compare parliamentary appointed leaders with a direct-elected leadership model like the President?


If you think a woman leader is indicative of how egalitarian a society is, then you need to re-reflect on the fact that Pakistan had a "woman leader"... and ranks horribly on sex-equality factors. Especially when Benazir Bhuto was ASSASSINATED!
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:19 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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If the argument that there is implied consent between a husband and wife that makes it okay for him to force himself on her, then I would think the Pakistani imam would argue that his daughter was his property and he had every right to discipline her as he saw fit. Both instances are patriarchal, both discount the woman as a human being and see her as property that her male guardians can handle as they see fit.
Only one problem with that; the Imam/father chose to live in Britain, not Pakistan. If "the Pakistani imam would argue that his daughter was his property and he had every right to discipline her as he saw fit" he disagrees with Parliament-made law and court-made common law. Essentially he's an ordinary, vile assailant and rapist.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:25 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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But the fact that it happened in England, where laws exist to prevent what happened to this young girl, and even so, she did not feel that she could access those protections, tells us how deeply embedded we all are in our culture.
When she attempted to "access those protections" through the equivalent of Child Protective Services, the social worker promptly ratted her out and savagely beaten. When she called the police as a result of an unrelated incident in the neighborhood, she was also beaten, though not as savagely. She wasn't at all rooted to the zoological "culture"; the majority English institutions refused to intervene in matters internal to the Pakistani community. Thus my OP Is There No Rule of Law in Ethnic Enclaves in the West?
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