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Old 09-10-2019, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Planet earth
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An article in the BBC News confirms what I have stated for years regarding the financial scam that is solar electricity. These systems simply cannot pay for themselves... and that's before failures and regular replacements. It's even worse if the system has batteries to remove the person from the grid.



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-49566130



Enjoy.
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Old 09-10-2019, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Originally Posted by KS_Referee View Post
An article in the BBC News confirms what I have stated for years regarding the financial scam that is solar electricity. These systems simply cannot pay for themselves... and that's before failures and regular replacements. It's even worse if the system has batteries to remove the person from the grid.



https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-49566130



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Enjoy? ...finding out that some people in the U.K. got fleeced by an unscrupulous company?
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:02 AM
 
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Our house's roof has had solar panels since 10/2010 (I think). I wonder how much if any it has scammed us!
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:03 AM
 
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You guys sound like you’d fit in as a captain planet villain henchman
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:43 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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The problem illustrated in the article is not solar panels, it is unscrupulous businesses.
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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You guys sound like you’d fit in as a captain planet villain henchman
... Literal lol.

Conservatives... We don't need regulations b/c what company is going to pollute their own community?

Also Conservatives... Look at how much pollution we're doing! Suck it Libs!
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Heart of Arabia (No, not Dearborn)
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Without seeing the contracts and the proposed savings pitched to these customers, it is impossible to say the company is unscrupulous. People complain.
Solar requires sun, anybody with a brain knows that. How much sun does that part of the UK get? Historically easy enough to calculate. People are idiots for not doing homework on an expensive purchase. Caveat emptor.

I recently looked at a home to buy in Arizona that was covered in leased solar panels, installed in 2018. There was a years worth of before/after power bills showing the history. Power bills before the install averaged $90 a month, after install the average was a $10 credit back to the grid. The lease was for 20 years, and cost $170 a month until 2028, and $121 a month until 2038. At end of lease one could buy the panels outright for about $2000.

The cost didnt work so I passed, as I was looking to rent the place out for a few years before I occupied it.
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:36 AM
 
Location: USA
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I've bought homes before in the Phoenix area with solar hot water heater and older panels on the roof. They all come down, and none of them last as long as the long out of business companies sold people on!
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Old 09-10-2019, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Heart of Arabia (No, not Dearborn)
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I've bought homes before in the Phoenix area with solar hot water heater and older panels on the roof. They all come down, and none of them last as long as the long out of business companies sold people on!
Solar thermal (hot water) and solar voltaic are two different beasts. The house I ended up buying has neither, but I will end up building/installing a solar voltaic loop myself (I've done it before) for the house water heater and hot tub. My house is at 5500 feet (north of Phoenix by two hours) so we actually get winters there.

I havent decided on an evacuated tube or simple PEX loop yet. I like those projects.

Will likely not do solar voltaic as there isnt enough south facing roof or flat space for ground level panels.
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Old 09-10-2019, 04:54 AM
 
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Without government subsidies, it's just not worth the cost to the majority of homeowners.
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