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Old 09-12-2019, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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Most Federal employees are not located in Washington DC. They are assigned to those field offices, or maybe located near resources or people that need them - those who use their services (think Social Security) or local officials. Who would ever locate the National Labs (nuclear) in Washington DC? No reason for much of the Forest Service to be there instead of in the Parks.
I agree with you but I just have to point out the U.S. Forest Service is NOT the same thing as the National Parks system. The U.S. Forest Service is under the Department of Agriculture while the National Park system is under the Department of the Interior.

It's a pet peeve of mine but it seems like the vast majority of Americans can't tell the difference between Forest Service, National Parks, & Bureau of Land Management, not to mention the various state agencies.

Some anarchist will come along to say there are too many departments and too many federal employees but they won't know what any of these departments/employees actually do so let's just ignore them.
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Old 09-15-2019, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I would like to move the State Department to Alaska.
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Old 09-15-2019, 06:35 AM
 
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Do any of you realize how much it costs to move a federal employee? I am a federal employee who moved because of a Brac. The tax payer paid for me to have a ten day house hunting trip. They paid for my hotel, all my meals, vehicle, and gas. On the 10 day trip I was also given administrative leave meaning I got paid and didn't have to take any leave. It was a 10 day all expenses paid vacation for me and several thousand others who made the move. And when I closed on my house, the tax payer paid for my leave then too. Saving money my butt. It costs move to move people than not.
They should have also paid all your house expenses such as commissions and closing cost. Did they pay the movers? That runs us 5-10 grand.
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Old 09-15-2019, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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Your lack of empathy for military families and taxpayers is sad.
I guess you do not know what some others here know, I am a veteran’s widow. He died after he returned home from some complications serving his country. 2- I’m still very much involved with some troops. Mostly marines so... Please - and I am a tax payer since I was 16 . You barked up the wrong tree.
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Old 09-15-2019, 07:42 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Do any of you realize how much it costs to move a federal employee? I am a federal employee who moved because of a Brac. The tax payer paid for me to have a ten day house hunting trip. They paid for my hotel, all my meals, vehicle, and gas. On the 10 day trip I was also given administrative leave meaning I got paid and didn't have to take any leave. It was a 10 day all expenses paid vacation for me and several thousand others who made the move. And when I closed on my house, the tax payer paid for my leave then too. Saving money my butt. It costs move to move people than not.
In this case those moving expenses will be recouped with two years due the the difference in cost-of-living pay adjustments. More importantly though, the cost of housing the agency offices will make it money saving within a year, at most. When HRC was moved from the DC/Northern Virginia area to Kentucky seven years ago (you know during a different president’s term) the entire cost of the move, including personnel personal moving expenses, building a huge new building, moving equipment, furnishings, and records, and buying new stuff for the building, was payed for in savings at the 8 month mark.

Now, if they were being moved from Kansas to the DC area that would be a different story.
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Old 09-15-2019, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Do any of you realize how much it costs to move a federal employee? I am a federal employee who moved because of a Brac. The tax payer paid for me to have a ten day house hunting trip. They paid for my hotel, all my meals, vehicle, and gas. On the 10 day trip I was also given administrative leave meaning I got paid and didn't have to take any leave. It was a 10 day all expenses paid vacation for me and several thousand others who made the move. And when I closed on my house, the tax payer paid for my leave then too. Saving money my butt. It costs move to move people than not.
private industry would have done more for you.
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Old 09-15-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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When you think of Missouri and Jobs the words loses and cuts come next in the chain of thought. This move may be a weak effort to shore up loses and keep a promise. Not a decent way to use federal employees and hasn't Trump hurt farmers enough already?
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Old 09-15-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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When you think of Missouri and Jobs the words loses and cuts come next in the chain of thought.
no, they don’t.

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This move may be a weak effort to shore up loses and keep a promise. Not a decent way to use federal employees and hasn't Trump hurt farmers enough already?
these aren’t farmers. they have precious little positive impact on farmers.
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Old 09-15-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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no, they don’t.



these aren’t farmers. they have precious little positive impact on farmers.
https://www.usda.gov/media/press-rel...etaliation-and

One would think that a governmental agency impacting agricultural markets would also have impact on people involved in agriculture.
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Old 09-15-2019, 04:32 PM
 
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https://www.usda.gov/media/press-rel...etaliation-and

One would think that a governmental agency impacting agricultural markets would also have impact on people involved in agriculture.
are those efforts carried out by the USDA units being moved to KC?
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