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Old 09-11-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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Any mainstream articles on the issue will be one sided. It’s just the way it is.

Yea that is usually the way it is when you hold beliefs that are counter factual.

Can't find many mainstream articles in support of flat Earth either.

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Old 09-11-2019, 09:37 AM
 
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Thatís huge.
Exactly.

It promotes the message that your child is not worth educating because of a medical decision.

Why are so many medical exceptions made to include children with every medical condition, drug, developmental problem ... but if a child hasn't received 1 vaccine the govt says um, no, won't accommodate you?

Sounds like a rights violation.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 09:38 AM
 
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As a Californian I am happy to see this crackdown on unethical docs who cater to the anti-vaxxer crowd.
How many are there? Can you cite the stats that there are an absolutely overwhelming number of doctors producing an absolutely overwhelming number of "unethical' exemptions?

No. Because there aren't.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 09:43 AM
 
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Some people who have legit adverse reactions but youí seem so sure that you know everything that youíre fine with that. Kids will be hurt by this law.
Why would they be? Parents opposed to vaccines will just continue to decline vaccination. These days millions of kids attend home school coops or do online school. They will still receive an education, just not in a traditional school setting.

Children with medical conditions that preclude vaccination will get waivers and attend schools with high vaccination rates that will protect them from VPD. These kids will actually benefit from the new law.

Iím seeing no harm to children.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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If you donít want to vaccinate your kids then home school them.
But what about those homeschoolers who take their kids to Disneyland? Isnít that how one of the outbreaks began?
 
Old 09-11-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I agree, govt did the exact same thing a few years back with opioid prescription drugs, they put heavy restrictions on doctors and pharmacies (yeah, Govt knows best), and the only reason, was so the drug cartels could get rid of their competition, its truly pathetic, our govt caters to criminal organizations and creates laws which benefit them.
So that's the new conspiracy theory? It wasn't because they were easily and massively being abused and were highly addictive? Nope, it was a move by the federal government to prop up the cartels.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Papers please situations. Already happens in order to go to public school and in some jobs. Papers please. Or you are banned.

Waiting for flights. Check vaccination records when you buy a plane ticket. It's coming.
Yeah and so is organized child abuse in the basement of your local pizza parlor if that is the way your mind works. Why are people such suckers for conspiracies?
 
Old 09-11-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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But what about those homeschoolers who take their kids to Disneyland? Isn’t that how one of the outbreaks began?
Yes, one of the outbreaks began at Disney. There’s no presumption of vaccination rate when one is out in public like there is in public school where vaccines are mandated and vaccination rates are known to be high.

That’s why the parents of an immunocompromised child who cannot get vaccines may avoid Disneyland, but can still safely send their child to public school.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 10:39 AM
 
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But what about those homeschoolers who take their kids to Disneyland? Isn’t that how one of the outbreaks began?
There’s no evidence that a homeschooler started the measles outbreak at Disneyland. I’ve never even heard this as a theory.

On that same note, what about all of the under-vaccinated (by today’s schedule) adults being out in public? I had the MMR vaccine as a child but not even close the number of doses that children of today get. I’ve never had a vaccination for hepatitis for instance and neither have many adults yet we are out in public daily. I’ve never had a rotavirus vaccine and neither have most adults yet we shop in the same stores as everyone else. Less then half of adults get a flu vaccine in any given year.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 11:04 AM
 
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How many are there? Can you cite the stats that there are an absolutely overwhelming number of doctors producing an absolutely overwhelming number of "unethical' exemptions?

No. Because there aren't.

So we only pass laws against crimes that are commonly committed but not against rarely committed crime?
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