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Old 09-11-2019, 03:32 PM
 
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He did. He gave you an example of a school with <10%. Unless you pedantically want proof of a school with exactly 10% which would be completely asinine.

Oh I see now, from the bold tags around the plural "s", instead you pedantically want him to provide you a with a second example.
Not like it will have any impact on your position so why? Just to waste his time right?
Yes, a missed placed S negates my whole argument. LOL.

And I noticed that poster ignored the school with more than 45% of kids with a medical waiver. She insists CA doctors havenít given out bogus waivers. Sure they havenít wink wink.

 
Old 09-11-2019, 03:33 PM
 
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Yes, a missed placed S negates my whole argument. LOL.

And I noticed that poster ignored the school with more than 45% of kids with a medical waiver. She insists CA doctors havenít given out bogus waivers. Sure they havenít wink wink.
I mean a single school at 45% is basically a statistical impossibility unless bogus wavers are in play. So yea.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 03:37 PM
 
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Nope. But in reading articles about schools with the lowest rates, the one you mentioned is the only one that came up as being that low. I have no interest or reason to search CA schools one by one.

Again, YOU asserted that there were schools with vaccination rates of 10%. You either back it up or not. Iím assuming your assertion was false. If you want to prove me wrong then search for yourself and prove it. Otherwise, you may want to drop it.
I misplaced an S. How awful. How many Mea Culpas is that worth?

How about the school (singular) with more than 45% of the kindergarteners with medical waivers? Do you still claim doctors (plural) arenít giving out bogus waivers? You think 45% of them really have a medical condition that precludes vaccination?
 
Old 09-11-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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I mean a single school at 45% is basically a statistical impossibility unless bogus wavers are in play. So yea.
And it’s not just a single school. It’s schoolS.

Here are some Bay Area schools with poor vaccination rates. When I have time I’ll look them all up on the link I provided and find the percent of medical waivers at them.

Marin Waldorf School, San Rafael: 25% vaccination rate
31.3% medical waiver rate

Live Oak Charter, Petaluma: 51.1% vaccination rate
46.7% medical waiver rate

Sebastopol Independent Charter: 43.2 % vaccination rate
45.5% medical waiver rate

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Old 09-11-2019, 03:39 PM
 
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I misplaced an S. How awful. How many Mea Culpas is that worth?

How about the school (singular) with more than 45% of the kindergarteners with medical waivers? Do you still claim doctors (plural) aren’t giving out bogus waivers? You think 45% of them really have a medical condition that precludes vaccination?
Instead of just stating that you were mistaken about there being more then one you proceeded to argue about it. Post after post after post. Can we move on? This is ridiculous.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 03:41 PM
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Don't quote me the parent of a child thrown in jail. Cite me ONE ADULT thrown in jail under Jacobson for refusing to vaccinate their Adult self and they themselves. You CANNOT. Even those Nurses refusing their flu shots weren't thrown in jail.

We had an official Flu Pandemic in 2009. Cite me how many people were jailed or quaranteened then????
I don't get your point. Maybe you can explain it.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 03:48 PM
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There are large areas, particularly in eastern California, with rates below 20%.
https://www.wired.com/story/californ...emptions-rise/ (See map)
 
Old 09-11-2019, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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They are being investigated if they give out five exemptions in one year. Not being investigated for giving out bogus exemptions. Just for giving out more then four. This will surely make many doctors stop giving out exemptions period over fear of being investigated, even if the exemption was valid. Some doctors have already stated this. And really, whoís in a better position to judge what is a valid exemption or not? Oneís doctor or the state legislators?
Depends how much of a quack one's doctor is. Take the "medical marijuana" industry in California before it was officially recognized for recreational use. That was some burnt out doctor doing five minute video conference evaluations. Basically the same thing those tour buses in Florida do for opioids. The state (generally a panel of doctors) is in a much better position to judge what is valid than a pill mill on the tour bus express route where the same patient gets ten prescriptions for Norco in a day and prescribed and filled on site on their "medical tourism" route. There's also, of course, legitimate pain clinics which treat people with chronic pain. Sure, they're both dealing with addicts with drug seeking behavior but that doesn't mean pill mills and legitimate pain clinics are the same.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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Instead of just stating that you were mistaken about there being more then one you proceeded to argue about it. Post after post after post. Can we move on? This is ridiculous.
Yes, let’s move on. What’s your take on a school with a 45.5% medical waiver rate? Reasonable? Legit?
 
Old 09-11-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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And itís not just a single school. Itís schoolS.

Here are some Bay Area schools with poor vaccination rates. When I have time Iíll look them all up on the link I provided and find the percent of medical waivers at them.

Marin Waldorf School, San Rafael: 22% vaccination rate

Berkeley Rose Waldorf School: 29% vaccination rate

Steele Lane Elementary, Santa Rosa: 32% vaccination rate

Sebastopol Independent Charter: 36% vaccination rate

Live Oak Charter, Petaluma: 51.1% vaccination rate
46.7% medical waiver rate

Sunridge Charter, Sebastopol: 44% vaccination rate

Reach School, Sebastopol: 43.2 % vaccination rate
45.5% medical waiver rate
Herd immunity levels for eradication/full suppression of most diseases hover in the 80%ish range so obviously these are inadequate numbers to prevent susceptibility to outbreaks.
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