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Old 09-10-2019, 07:48 PM
 
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ummmm, no. Have you ever seen the public propaganda posted on FB/twitter?


I mean, every day there's things like " if you dont support the military then you are not a patriot"



...you may be correct, i haven't seen that, i'm not on facebook or twitter...
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Old 09-10-2019, 07:52 PM
 
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The Vietnam War is a stain on American history and the worst abuse of governmental power our country has seen. It should not be celebrated in any form, but should be remembered for what it was and a lesson learned. Ken Burns' 'Vietnam' is a very good look at how devastating it was all around.

One of my fondest memories is when I was traveling around Vietnam and an older man offered his services to take me around, including to Hamburger Hill outside of Hue, which was a very deadly battle. It was all for nothing in the end. The Vietnamese were not a bunch of Marxists, but would have fought forever to reunify their country, which has been abused and controlled by foreign powers for centuries.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Brawndo-Thirst-Mutilator-Nation
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Not me...........I have said before, quite clearly, I would have skeeeeeedaddled if my number came up.

Last edited by tickyul; 09-10-2019 at 09:37 PM..
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:38 PM
 
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which had nothing to do with the 20-45 million figure.
this appears to contest your premise.....

https://www.heritage.org/asia/commen...ng-mass-murder
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:42 PM
 
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American have not become more supportive of the Viet Nam war. They just no longer hold criticism of those who fought in the war.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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this appears to contest your premise.....

https://www.heritage.org/asia/commen...ng-mass-murder
No, this conservative think tank piece does nothing to even remotely suggest what I said is wrong. Its just a garble of rhetoric.
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:56 PM
 
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The Vietnam War is a stain on American history and the worst abuse of governmental power our country has seen. It should not be celebrated in any form, but should be remembered for what it was and a lesson learned. Ken Burns' 'Vietnam' is a very good look at how devastating it was all around.

One of my fondest memories is when I was traveling around Vietnam and an older man offered his services to take me around, including to Hamburger Hill outside of Hue, which was a very deadly battle. It was all for nothing in the end. The Vietnamese were not a bunch of Marxists, but would have fought forever to reunify their country, which has been abused and controlled by foreign powers for centuries.
You do know that the only foreign power to control Vietnam was the Chinese... until France in the late 1800's. They also invaded Vietnam after we left....
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Old 09-10-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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No, this conservative think tank piece does nothing to even remotely suggest what I said is wrong. Its just a garble of rhetoric.
well. a "search" titled "did Mao murder millions of Chinese" has 24,000,000 results.....I don't have the time to argue with you. the consensus seems to point to you being wrong....
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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well. a "search" titled "did Mao murder millions of Chinese" has 24,000,000 results.....I don't have the time to argue with you. the consensus seems to point to you being wrong....
You didn't read your own article nor did you read my original post.

the 20-40 million number has nothing to do with executions or "murder", it had to do with economic abrup economic change and dissolution of the traditional food chain.

That is far and away from "Mao murdered...".
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Old 09-10-2019, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I would venture to say those asked by the poll don't remember living through the Vietnam War. As someone who did, I thought it was one of the worst foreign policy post WWII mistakes the United States ever made.
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