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Old 09-11-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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Thank God Millennials and Gen Zers don't vote

What makes you think they don't vote?

Why are you stating relief over a phony statement?

Why do we have yet another thread that is apparently trying to negatively influence others against 2 entire generations with the resulting denigration and propaganda pablum that was sure to show up, as always, whenever broad and sweeping generalizations, despite being phony, are leveled against fellow Americans. This country is as much theirs as anybody's.

Are you somehow trying to suppress their vote or encourage others to foment for that? I believe the 2 generations targeted in this thread, more than any other, are immune to this type of web-brigade rabble rousing.

Or is this just a simple divide and try to conquer approach? Keep a certain aggrieved sub-group of another generation angry and supplied with a designated villain who they can then blame for their lot in life? Or are you hoping to, in the process, disenfranchise and radicalize entire generations to drive manufactured wedges between them and others in society?

This 70 year old finds this thread disturbing.

Peace!
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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Thank God Millennials and Gen Zers don't vote

What makes you think they don't vote?

Why are you stating relief over a phony statement?

Why do we have yet another thread that is apparently trying to negatively influence others against 2 entire generations with the resulting denigration and propaganda pablum that was sure to show up, as always, whenever broad and sweeping generalizations, despite being phony, are leveled against fellow Americans. This country is as much theirs as anybody's.

Are you somehow trying to suppress their vote or encourage others to foment for that? I believe the 2 generations targeted in this thread, more than any other, are immune to this type of web-brigade rabble rousing.

Or is this just a simple divide and try to conquer approach? Keep a certain aggrieved sub-group of another generation angry and supplied with a designated villain who they can then blame for their lot in life? Or are you hoping to, in the process, disenfranchise and radicalize entire generations to drive manufactured wedges between them and others in society?

This 70 year old finds this thread disturbing.

Peace!
And so does this 80 year old. And I'm related to some of the people who are being criticized. Not a one of them would ever miss voting in local state and national elections. They are all well informed. And so are their friends.


IMO, the op forgets or ignores that all citizens have the exact same rights an responsibilities.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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I’m not Trumps biggest fan, he definitely is not presidential. However he is a much better choice than the radicals running against him. Do you support the green new deal? Universal basic income? Free college and healthcare? If you do then who is paying? Am I paying? Who has their assert”redistributed and who gets a freebie? Are you a socialist? Who is paying?

If you don’t believe in these things then you should consider holding your nose and using your brain and cast a reluctant vote for trump. At least with Trump we maintain our capitalist system that has served our nation well.
The problem is, you seem to think that with Trump you're escaping paying for socialism-driven things. Trump's tax cuts for the rich and his payment to farmers are exactly that. You could ask the same questions regarding that: who is paying for them? The answer is 'you', 'me', and every other taxpayer.

Many conservatives use 'socialism' in way to paint it negatively. In reality, America has plenty of social programs that the populace would boil if touched. Trump himself declared healthcare would be 'for everybody'.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:39 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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The problem is, you seem to think that with Trump you're escaping paying for socialism-driven things. Trump's tax cuts for the rich and his payment to farmers are exactly that. You could ask the same questions regarding that: who is paying for them? The answer is 'you', 'me', and every other taxpayer.

Many conservatives use 'socialism' in way to paint it negatively. In reality, America has plenty of social programs that the populace would boil if touched. Trump himself declared healthcare would be 'for everybody'.
When you really get down to it, they vote Republican mostly because of cultural issues. They would be for open borders if the open borders party was also the anti-abortion and anti-LGBT party.
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Old 09-11-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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When you really get down to it, they vote Republican mostly because of cultural issues. They would be for open borders if the open borders party was also the anti-abortion and anti-LGBT party.


You got that right.
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Old Yesterday, 11:56 PM
 
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I think the life expectancy is 84. 38 is pretty close to the middle of that
Maybe somewhere in Europe.

Life expectancy is 78 in the United States
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Old Today, 01:54 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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A lot of us Gen Xrs have always been critical of what the boomers did in their youths. The drugs, the protests and fits of hippie tantrums. Thankfully they grew up and became more useful and productive Americans. The millennials are in their 30s and still protesting and calling for socialism. I’m afraid this is who the millennials really are, growing up ain’t helping them. The boomers seem to have been just looking for a party back then, the millennials are true blue socialists who are determined to change the country. They are more dangerous than the baby boomers ever could have been. I am thankful our generation never did any of this. We are too practical of a generation to fall for socialism. As a whole we believe in America as it is supposed to be we’ve spent our half century on this planet working our tails off and living our lives. Our generation was never interested in changing the world but we need to start working to stop what these kids are trying to do to our country. What they want ain’t America that is for sure.

If we are to look to another generation as a model of American behavior we must look toward our grandparents generation. (At least for us Xrs) They suffered through the depression, sacrificed in ww2 and delivered our nation victory, they worked and lived good lives after the war and lived the American dream. They were model Americans who believed in and loved America. They were shocked by the protests of the 60s and 70s. If they were around today they would be shocked by today’s youth as well. In fact if they were around today they would fear for this nations survival.
So...you are going to tell the rest of us “how America is supposed to be”.

You appear to be longing for the good old 50’s and you weren’t even a zygote back then. You appear to love fear. The millennials WILL run the country one day. Deal with it. One of them will look after you when they put you in a nursing home so you better be nice.


Gen X’s are underachievers-not really known for much. Nope they’ve never been interested in anything.
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Old Today, 04:10 AM
 
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My millennial son votes and has since he was able to.

During the last presidential election, I asked him to write in Pat Paulson, but he wouldn't.
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Old Today, 06:03 AM
 
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A lot of us Gen Xrs have always been critical of what the boomers did in their youths. The drugs, the protests and fits of hippie tantrums. Thankfully they grew up and became more useful and productive Americans. The millennials are in their 30s and still protesting and calling for socialism. I’m afraid this is who the millennials really are, growing up ain’t helping them. The boomers seem to have been just looking for a party back then, the millennials are true blue socialists who are determined to change the country. They are more dangerous than the baby boomers ever could have been. I am thankful our generation never did any of this. We are too practical of a generation to fall for socialism. As a whole we believe in America as it is supposed to be, we’ve spent our half century on this planet working our tails off and living our lives. Our generation was never interested in changing the world but we need to start working to stop what these kids are trying to do to our country. What they want ain’t America that is for sure.

If we are to look to another generation as a model of American behavior we must look toward our grandparents generation. (At least for us Xrs) They suffered through the depression, sacrificed in ww2 and delivered our nation victory, they worked and lived good lives after the war and lived the American dream. They were model Americans who believed in and loved America. They were shocked by the protests of the 60s and 70s. If they were around today they would be shocked by today’s youth as well. In fact if they were around today they would fear for this nations survival.
So you’re comparing Millennials to generations that largely could get a decent paying job with just a high school degree or GED, or if you wanted to go to college, after adjusting for inflation it was substantially cheaper? I know boomers that were able to get tech jobs in the late 70s even without prior knowledge and they’d train people upon being hired. Now, there’s tech companies starting to go away from higher ed requirements assuming the candidate already has the required skill.

Some of the blue collar jobs available in the 1950s-70s no longer exist.

A lot of these people were able to buy a home and go to school with assistance from things like the GI bill, and well deserved for those that came back from war. Some of these same people were also able to retire in their 50s or early 60s with a full pension.

My mom was able to pay her own way to college with a part time retail job during college. I graduated about 15 years ago and would’ve had no capacity time-wise to fit that in, and there’s no way a retail job would’ve covered the cost of the in-state public college tuition I had.

Wage growth adjusted for inflation is not the same from approximately 1980 to today as it was from the mid 30s to 1980. This is very easy to find on google.
I wouldn’t advocate for socialism, but the system of capitalism when boomers and older gen exrs were becoming adults is slightly different than the one faced by Millennials and Gen Z.
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