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Old Today, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Nearly half of US births are paid for by Medicaid. There may or may not be a low co-pay depending on state and motherís situation.

A few states pay birth mothers a financial bonus for seeking prenatal care.
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Old Today, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Do doctors just work for free under this medicare system? I don't see how else the cost could be zero.

I question the source of the $32,000 average cost and the difference between cost vs public and private insurance reimbursement vs motherís out of pocket cost.

75-83% of the cost ( depending on source) is attributed to the typical 2 day stay following delivery.

Makes absolutely no sense for most births and recovery to occur in an integrated hospital and incur the associated overhead, instead of freestanding birthing centers.
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Old Today, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Bernie has never done well with math... Adulting is SO hard. Not that he'd know-he's never held a real job in his life.
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Old Today, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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I get what he't trying to communicate but he definitely could have been more clear. He is probably trying to use as few characters as possible. Someone always pays, whether it be the patient out of pocket, private insurance, the taxpayers, etc. Even when an uninsured gets treatment at a hospital and the hospital has to write it off, the hospital pays. But "Additional amount paid out of pocket by an individual patient under Medicare For All after taxpayer program funding: $0" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
No, the hospital doesn't "pay". Unlike the government, they can't just print money. Other customers pay. Medicaid doesn't pay reimbursement rates high enough to cover costs, and the deadbeats that show up for treatment that don't pay both are driving higher costs for those that DO pay their way. This includes both those with private insurance, and those without that actually are responsible adults. Eliminate this burden on our health care system and calculate actual health care costs when we don't have to carry the deadbeats.
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Old Today, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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Seems he is remarking on what a recipient of medical services would pay under his "plan". Not on how it is covered or by who. Would need details to comment on.
But the average person paying insurance premiums does not pay 32K for childbirth. Its more like $3,400 according to surveys so why not use that figure if your talking about what the recipient pays.
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Old Today, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Do doctors just work for free under this medicare system? I don't see how else the cost could be zero.

Bernie knows we are already paying enough for the "For Profit" heathcare that Richard Nixon gave us to more than fund UHC.

Don't be absurd. Nobody ever said anything is free. What he and the rest of the Democrats are saying is, it's time American taxpayers got what they already paid for.
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Old Today, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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But the average person paying insurance premiums does not pay 32K for childbirth. Its more like $3,400 according to surveys so why not use that figure if your talking about what the recipient pays.
Hey - The insurance companies have to make a little, you know.
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Old Today, 07:29 AM
 
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But the average person paying insurance premiums does not pay 32K for childbirth. Its more like $3,400 according to surveys so why not use that figure if your talking about what the recipient pays.
Bernie pays $0 for his healthcare... Citizens have always paid his tab.

Hw uses the $0 figure because FREE FREE FREE is what he is trying to sell. It sells well to the Echo Chamber.
Thatís why the Left uses these ploys.
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Old Today, 07:30 AM
 
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Im not sure what you mean by cheapest elswhere,
You dont recognize that health care is far cheaper in the rest of the developed world?

Really?

We have the most privatized system in the world, and the most expensive.

Facts are facts.
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Old Today, 07:35 AM
 
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You dont recognize that health care is far cheaper in the rest of the developed world?

Really?

We have the most privatized system in the world, and the most expensive.

Facts are facts.
Cut/eliminate the onerous Fed Gov regulations/controls on the health care industry. Cost problem solved.
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