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Old 09-11-2019, 05:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
I think the health care issues will slide back the way they were before the ACA. People who cannot afford insurance will not get it and will use the ER as their doctor, as those with insurance will pay for them.

The admin has dismantled part of the law, which basically renders the whole thing useless. We have no health insurance policy now, and I assume the lobbyists are in charge.

One can only assume that people who refuse to get insurance are going to end up using the ER as their physician. It is sad. This admin wanted to take us backwards and they have.
I own too much stuff and have too much money to leave a ER paying the bill.

 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Sorry, but rationed care is not what we want.
It's what we need for a lot of medical decisions.

Our current health care model is pay per service, i.e. whatever services the doctor performs he is paid for (as long as the service is on the insurance formulary).

This leads to unnecessary procedures in many cases, and its one of the reasons we spend so much on health care.

I've had to turn down at least 2 unnecessary surgeries that were recommended to me.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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Nothing much can be done when Nancy’s won’t allow any bills on Health Care fixes or Reforms. Democrats were suckered. Y her once again. They are a Do Nothing House that avoids work and only cares about Elections and more Promises never kept.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Nothing much can be done when Nancy’s won’t allow any bills on Health Care fixes or Reforms. Democrats were suckered. Y her once again. They are a Do Nothing House that avoids work and only cares about Elections and more Promises never kept.
LMAO the Senate is the do nothing chamber.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:16 PM
 
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Of course it did, because the maniac is doing everything he can to tank the ACA just to spite Obama.
ACA caused the issue. No one wants to carry deadbeats therefore they go uninsured.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:19 PM
 
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Insurance became unaffordable BECAUSE of Obama. Tanking the ACA and returning to a free competitive market is the solution.
Because it worked so well last time..
 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Sorry, but rationed care is not what we want.
What do you think annual and lifetime caps that were allowed under the older system were?
 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I have always been without HC. Last time i saw a doc was 1990. Morons never got a dime from me with that dumb fine.
They never got a penalty Dime from us either. We were advised by our CPA just to leave the question blank on our returns (as to if we had healthcare coverage yes, or no).

We have coverage again since the laws have changed to allow temp policies of upto 2 years. Those rates are similar to what we were paying pre-"nonACA". We have catastrophic coverage, and use our HSA to fill in the amount upto where the cat coverage kicks in. This is the way its done in many other Country's.

We had coverage for our entire lives until the ACA scam came along. Then, Aetna booted us saying "our policy failed to conform to ACA", so we self-insured using our sizeable HSA's, and other assets. We went bare for 3 years until Trump started undoing ACA. Thanks to Trump, we have insurance coverage again, which is exactly the same coverage we had pre-ACA except this is a "temporary" policy lasting 2 years. We have to renew each 2 years...until Trump undoes that too.

Obama had a more negative influence on our lives than ANY other President, and it's not even close. I doubt we will ever vote for any Democrat ever again. There are no more Kennedy Democrats any more. They are all way too far Left for our liking.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:34 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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That would be going in the wrong direction.

ACA was a stepping stone to single payer, which a majority support.

https://www.kff.org/slideshow/public...care-coverage/
Sure it was, like leaving NYC to go to Washington DC via Australia. Like Using Australia as a stepping stone to get there.
 
Old 09-11-2019, 05:36 PM
 
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So, now people aren't forced to buy an insurance policy with deductibles they could never afford to pay.
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