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Old 09-11-2019, 11:13 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Im sorry are you a moderator? No? Then report me. Your post was a partisan hit piece nothing more.
I’m sorry, did I ever claim to be? No? Keep on deflecting.


My post was neutral, whereas you irrelevantly invoked Obama.
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Old 09-12-2019, 03:52 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Humans attacked us. We should not trust humans.
Not being truthful hasn't helped your side.
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:04 AM
 
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We learned from the New York Times that airplanes took down the World Trade Center. Some people did something.

Muslims attacked us. That is the truth.
The fact you think you learn something from one tweet is fascinating to me.

Did you read any of the other articles in the NYT or just the tweet. Is that how you get all your info.?
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:16 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I wonder how Omar and Tlaib feel about today. Or for that matter other anti-American liberals like AOC and Pocahontas and all those Muslim immigrants who live here but don't consider themselves American and are more loyal to their own countries than to America.
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Old 09-12-2019, 06:04 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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We learned that some of the hijackers are still alive. Not sure how they got out the planes???

Was that ever addressed??

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
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Old 09-12-2019, 06:24 AM
 
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Omar and Tlaib have are now congressmen...

...we forgot!
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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This doesn't make sense. Most of the people in One who could leave, did. The majority of the people who died in One were above 92. Remember--everyone on 91 in One lived. Everyone on 92 and above is dead. That was the line where the stairwells were blocked. Basic fact.

Of course people on lower floors also died, especially if they were in the cattle car elevators or stayed in the building purposely, but the majority of people who died in One died because they simply could not go anywhere.

This is what amazes me a bit. People know all the exciting conspiracy stuff that gets their heart and imaginations pumping, but so few know the most elementary, basic facts of about the structure or what happened inside the buildings that day before the collapses.

Or hell, AFTER the collapses. My personal favorite is "the buildings fell straight down into their own footprint!" as if this means that 110 stories of steel, concrete, and all they contained fell into a neat little pile within the acre.

Um, St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, anyone? A block and a half southwest of Tower Two yet completely obliterated by the collapse of Two, buried so deeply that they couldn't even recover the icons? 20 other buildings in the area damaged or destroyed by the collapse that day? Anyone?

I remember afterward when they set up a walkway so people could view the site as the cleanup was going on. Time after time you heard people gasp, "My GOD, I didn't know the area was so BIG." Once the debris was cleared, it was 16 acres, sixty feet deep. Not a lot if you live in cornfield country, but on a small island only half a mile wide at that point, it's a big chunk of city.
I'm talking about building 2. It's all guesswork when they're instructing people in situations like that. But given the fact that a plane was flown into the building, err on the side of caution and evacuate the area. It's what happened all over downtown Chicago because we didn't know if we were next.
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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We learned that some of the hijackers are still alive. Not sure how they got out the planes???

Was that ever addressed??

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
that was addressed 18 years ago

the BBC did correct the story

A five-year-old story from our archive has been the subject of some recent editorial discussion here. The story, written in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, was about confusion at the time surrounding the names and identities of some of the hijackers. This confusion was widely reported and was also acknowledged by the FBI.

The story has been cited ever since by some as evidence that the 9/11 attacks were part of a US government conspiracy.

We later reported on the list of hijackers, thereby superseding the earlier report. In the intervening years we have also reported in detail on the investigation into the attacks, the 9/11 commission and its report.

We’ve carried the full report, executive summary and main findings and, as part of the recent fifth anniversary coverage, a detailed guide to what’s known about what happened on the day. But conspiracy theories have persisted. The confusion over names and identities we reported back in 2001 may have arisen because these were common Arabic and Islamic names.

In an effort to make this clearer, we have made one small change to the original story. Under the FBI picture of Waleed al Shehri we have added the words "A man called Waleed Al Shehri..." to make it as clear as possible that there was confusion over the identity. The rest of the story remains as it was in the archive as a record of the situation at the time.

We recently asked the FBI for a statement, and this is, as things stand, the closest thing we have to a definitive view: The FBI is confident that it has positively identified the nineteen hijackers responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Also, the 9/11 investigation was thoroughly reviewed by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States and the House and Senate Joint Inquiry. Neither of these reviews ever raised the issue of doubt about the identity of the nineteen hijackers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditor..._theory_1.html

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And in fact if you look at the details, you’ll find that mistaken identity seems the most likely explanation. Read more in our analyses of the most common “still alive” stories: Abdulaziz Al Omari, Ahmed Al-Nami, Khalid Al Mihdhar, Mohammed Atta, Said al-Ghamdi, Salem Al-Hamzi, Wail Al-Shehri, Waleed Al-Shehri and Mohand Alshehri.

What’s more, Saudi Arabia have now accepted that their citizens, as named by the US, were involved. Why would they do that if any of them were still alive, and so plainly innocent?

Saudi Arabia acknowledged for the first time that 15 of the Sept. 11 suicide hijackers were Saudi citizens...

Previously, Saudi Arabia had said the citizenship of 15 of the 19 hijackers was in doubt despite U.S. insistence they were Saudis. But Interior Minister Prince Nayef told The Associated Press that Saudi leaders were shocked to learn 15 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.

"The names that we got confirmed that," Nayef said in an interview. "Their families have been notified."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/02/06/saudi.htm



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What’s more, all these stories occurred very soon after 9/11. Once the FBI released their official list of hijackers, complete with photographs (on the 27th September), these stories disappeared. This suggests to us they were only ever a mixup over names, and once the photos appeared as well these individuals realised they weren’t wanted men after all.






SO MUCH FOR THE HIJACKERS BEING 'STILL ALIVE' AS THE TWOOFER LIKE TO LIE ABOUT
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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No, of course not. But, their gut reaction knowing that something terrible was going on must have kicked in (at least for some). I think it would be a fairly normal reaction to want to bolt.
Indeed. Some did. I know a man who worked on 101 in T2. When they saw T1 was hit, they were gathering in the middle of the floor to self-evacuate. Then the announcement came over, and everyone went back to their desks, but he was so unnerved by the sight of people jumping that he could see from his window that he decided to go down anyway, as did two other women with him. Their tower got hit as they were going down, but they made it out. The other 200 people in their company are dead.
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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1. We learned that we are vulnerable.
2. We learned that we had to up our security game.
3. We learned that after out spending the next 3 biggest spenders we couldn't get an air force or a US Naval Fighter in the air and armed in a reasonable time.
4. We learned that the enemy doesn't need to spend 600 billion a year on weapons to really hurt us if they want to.

What we haven't learned.

We haven't learned that being nice to terrorists won't help us.
We haven't learned that buying friends doesn't buy loyalty.
We haven't learned to mind our own business.
We haven't learned to take care of our own needs first.
We haven't learned that our 2 major parties are our worst enemies.
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Well we didn't learn to stop invading or interfering in civil wars. Obama involved us in a few more on his way to record deficit spending.

Completely agree. And you said it all without bringing up religion, even though that one rises up among the others as a cancer to this planet.
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